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Re. Neville Poole, there is a considerable amount of source information including the 1919 Poole Pedigree of Gloucestershire and Wiltshire and the Bishop's transcripts of Rodmarton. These documents are attached on the Ancestry tree, amongst several others which tell the story of the Pooles fortunes, etc. It is reasonable to conclude that there is a link between the early Neville Poole and the later Neville Poole of Culkerton found in the Bishop's transcripts of Rodmarton.
Regarding the earliest Neville Poole c1592-1661 there is a clear link to the Plantagenets through Griselda/Grisel Neville who married Sir Henry Poole of Oaksey,Wilts and Kemble, Glos, father Edward Poole of both Gloucestershire and Wiltshire.
Source from researcher - Email from John Taplin 13 Jan 2007 re. Poole ONDB Biographies, etc.
The ODNB does not hold any relevant entry, but the History of
Parliament (History of Parliament: the House of Commons 1558-1603
edited by P.W.Hasler published in 3 Volumes by HMSO 25 February
1982) came up trumps. I was surprised to find an entry for Sir Henry
Poole because as far as I was aware from the Oxford alumni entry,
he was not an MP until 1604 i.e. after the dates covered by Hasler.
The History of Parliament is an ongoing project and the years from
1604-29 are not due to be published for 3 or 4 years. But there he
was, because he had been MP for Cirencester in 1597.
The entry is headed....
POOLE, Henry (1564-1632) of Kemble, Glos. and Oaksey, Wilts.
It gives the dates of his election to Parliament and the following detail
of his ancestry....
b. 1564, 1st s. of Edward Poole of Cirencester, Glos. and Oaksey,
Wilts. educ. Trinity Coll. Oxf. 1580 m. (1) Griselda, da. of Edward
Neville, 7th Lord Abergavenny of Newton St. Loe, Som., 2s, 1da.; (2)
c. 1614 Anne Barnarde, wid. of Sir James Harrington of Ridlington,
Rutland. suc. fa. 1577. Kntd. 1603. J.p Wilts. from c.1590, q. by 1601,
sheriff 1619-20.
Extract from PDF document 'Finetta Poole descendant of the first Neville Poole'... see full document for source information
Griselda/Grisel Neville was a descendant of John of Gaunt(her gggg grandfather). Her father was
Edward Neville, 5th Lord Abergavenny(sometimes referred to as 7th
as the first two Lord Abergavennys were Beauchamps).
John “of Gaunt” Plantagenet c1340-1399 m Katharine de
Roet/Catharine Swynford* of Hainault
1 John “of Gaunt” Plantagenet
http://au.encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761560102/john_of_gaunt_duke_of_lancaster.html
http://www.nndb.com/people/826/000094544/
2 Catherine de Roet/Swynford
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katherine_Swynford http://www.nndb.com/people/343/000098049/
…..Their daughter Joan de Beaufort c1375-1440 m Ralph de Neville of Raby
………son Edward Neville c1414-1476 1st Lord Abergavenny m Elizabeth
Beauchamp (also a Plantagenet descendant, through her grandmother
Constance Plantagenet who was the granddaughter of Edward III Plantagenet)
………….son George Neville c1440- 20 Sep 1492 2nd Lord Abergavenny m
Margaret Fenne
……………..son Edward Neville c1471- 8 Dec 1738 Tower Hill5 (beheaded for
High Treason in Cromwell’s reign) m Eleanor Windsor
………………..son Edward Neville c1518-10 Feb 1588/9 5th Lord Abergavenny m
Catherine Brome
…………………….daughter Griselda Neville
John of Gaunt was a descendant of Henry II Plantagenet, Henry III, Edward 1, Edward II and Edward III(his father)
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Gillian - for your own safety (and to comply with T&C) it would be best to remove your email address. Just say you have sent a message to Mark by PM.
As a reminder, to send a message (PM) click on the person's name. Hope the two of you can sort things out. :-) and welcome to using the Boards.
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Hi
I have the Neville Poole website on Ancestry.
I have more information on the Pooles of Rodmarton, Tetbury, etc.
Regards Gillian
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you probably have this, but I'm posting it as a reference!
??? Ann Minchinton in 1841
1841 Census
Name: Ann Minchington
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Gender: Female
Where born: Somerset, England
Civil Parish: Mudford
Hundred: Stone
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Registration district: Yeovil
Sub-registration district: Yeovil
John Minchington 50
Henry Minchington 20
William Minchington 16
Thomas Minchington 12
Mark Minchington 10
James Minchington 9
Daniel Minchington 5
Ann Minchington 7
Adelaide Minchington 3
sylvia
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Peter did not marry Ann Minchinton until 1859
Marriages Mar 1859 (>99%)
Minchinton Ann Yeovil 5c 785
Pool Peter Yeovil 5c 785
Warre Mary Eliza Yeovil 5c 785
If you buy that marriage certificate you will find th name of his father for certain!
You might also find out whether it was his first marriage or his second ......... he is rather old not to have been married before!
sylvia
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Hi,
I think Somerset is the next county to Wiltshire, so probably not to far apart
Regards
Mark
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Plantagenet link Neville Poole of Oaksey Wiltshire inc Pooles of Gloucestershire and Bathurst families(link thru Finetta Poole)
Owner: gillianeverett
Neville of Culkerton Poole
Stories (6)
1.Story
Email from Ca...
2.Story
The Pooles of...
3.Story
Origins of th...
4.Story
Bishops Trans...
1736
ABT
Birth
Gloucestershire, Wiltshire, England
Of Culkerton, Coates, Sapperton
1756 21 Sep
Age: 20
Marriage to Elizabeth Ricketts
Cherrington Wiltshire Gloucestershire
GLS
1758 15 Jan
Age: 22
Sapperton Gloucestershire
First child Mary christened Sapperton Gloucestershire
1762 -1781
Age: 26
Rodmarton Gloucestershire
Baptism of children in Rodmarton per Bishop's Transcripts 1578-1812
Neville and Elizabeth Poole of Culkerton
Stories (1)
178125 Nov
Age: 45
? father Neville Poole of Coates buried in Rodmarton
Rodmarton, Gloucestershire, England per Bishop's Transcripts 1578-1812
1782 17 Jan
Age: 46
Daughter Patience Poole burried Kingscote
Gls, England, United Kingdom
1785 8 Mar
Age: 49
Son John Poole baptised Tetbury
Gls, England, United Kingdom
1788
Age: 52
Neville Poole born c1769 married Marguerite Peere
St Mary's, Cricklade, Wiltshire, England
Possibly son of Neville Poole and Elizabeth Ricketts but no baptism record
Link
? Father unknown? Descended from Neville Poole of Oaksey Wiltshire who married Frances Poole of Sapperton? Link to Sapperton Glos. First child Mary christened 1758 Sapperton Glos
Family Members
Parents
Neville Poole
1708 – 1781
No Mother
Siblings
Ann Poole
1735 – 1736
Sarah Poole
1741 –
Ann Poole
1743 –
Edward Poole
1746 –
Mary Poole
1749 –
Spouse & Children
Elizabeth Ricketts
1736 – 1800
Mary Poole
1758 –
Richard Poole
1762 –
Edward Poole
1765 –
Henry Poole
1772 –
Sarah Poole
1775 –
Edward Poole
1776 – 1848
Patience Poole
1780 – 1782
John of Culkerton Poole
1781 –
John Poole
1785 –
IGI Family Search
1 citation provides evidence for Name
all her information comes from other people
I suggest that you take a 2 week free trial in ancestry.co.uk, then you will be able to contact and find out more inforamtion, specifically how accurate her information is, and how it might relate to you
sylvia
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Mark, there are quite a number of trees with Edward in, some very well researched.
Ancestry offers a 14 day free trial. Why not do that, which should be enough time to gather the information you need?
But, be aware that just because several trees have the same information, it doesn't mean it's right. Some people copy like mad on there, and tend to make other people's ancestors fit their own.
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The ones with Neville Poole in them have a son Edward b1773 who married Mary Butler, does this tally with what you have found?
Katie
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Those trees on ancestry seem to all have a Neville Poole born ca 1736 Sapperton, Goucestershire, with father Neville Pool, mother uknown
I How does Sapperton it with your stated Culkerton?
The ONE tree that implies that it might go back to the Plantagenets has all of ONE source showing. It also says Neville was born in Wiltshire!
I do believe that the tree might well not be accurate!!!
Plantagenet link Neville Poole of Oaksey Wiltshire inc Pooles of Gloucestershire and Bathurst families(link thru Finetta Poole)
Public Member Tree
1 source
Preview
Name: Neville of Culkerton Poole
Birth: Abt 1736 - Wiltshire, England
Marriage: 21 Sep 1756 - Wiltshire
Spouse: Elizabeth Ricketts
F: Neville Poole
M: (Name Unknown)
The one source she cites is the IGI on Family Search
nowt else!
I'll post what I can from that tree .......... but I think it's very much a case of buyer beware!
Please please do not just add it all to your tree ........ it all needs checking very very carefully
sylvia
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Hi,
I wonder if anyone can tell my anything about Neville Poole and his ancestors or where I can find infornation about him?
I believe I have traced my mother's side of tree back to Edward Poole born around 1776 in Gloucestershire.
I haven't got a subscription to ancestry but I have glimpsed on some public trees Neville being list as his father. Some state can trace the family back to the plantagnets. Can anyone help?
Cheers
Mark
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