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Grand Father Edward Cutts

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FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 30 Oct 2010 23:05

I really can not find Edward Cutts/Greenfield on 1881 anywhere.
His birth cert for the details really are a must I think.
Its just that this one stays born c1882 and Sheffield on all the others that makes me worry about it.
Although there is no birth for an Edward Greenfield or Cutts in Sheffield for the right time that I can find..

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 30 Oct 2010 23:00

Gosh-we've been giving you the third degree here. Sorry about that and thanks so much for replying.

Maureen

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 30 Oct 2010 23:00

I really would like to know how you are sure he was born that year and in Suffolk though as it is some way from Sheffield.
We really are not being horrid here Margaret,we just dont want you chasing the wrong Edward.

Margaret

Margaret Report 30 Oct 2010 22:58

Thank you.
Margaret

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 30 Oct 2010 22:57

Exactly,Fan!

Did you just pick out that Edward Cutts because he was born roughly the same year as yours??

Maureen

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 30 Oct 2010 22:53

Births Dec 1880
CUTTS Edward Blything 4a 749

Then if you are certain this birth is his you need to get it from the GRO really for the info it will give you,and us,to try and help you further.

http://www.gro.gov.uk

£9.25P and about 5-7 days to arrive.
I have added those details in case you did not know them..some dont..

Margaret

Margaret Report 30 Oct 2010 22:52

No sorry

Margaret

Margaret Report 30 Oct 2010 22:52

He married Florence Belk in April 1901 and his father was named as Philip Greenfield occupation Railway Spring Fitter.In 1911 Census his name is stated as Edward Cutts adopted son of Caroline Greenfield,on his Death Certificate his name is stated as Edward C Greenfield and he is the husband of Florence C Greenfield.

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 30 Oct 2010 22:40

Births Dec 1880
CUTTS Edward Blything 4a 749

Do you have this birth cert if this is him?
Who does it say his mother and father is on it please?
And what address was he born at?

Margaret

Margaret Report 30 Oct 2010 22:37

I have a copy of his marriage certificate that states his father as Philip Greenfield, and an elderly aunt told me when I got his death certificate that states his name as Edward C Greenfield that he was adopted.

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 30 Oct 2010 22:33

That's when it starts to get odd!!


1911 census transcription details for: 220 Savile St Sheffield
RG14PN27969 RD510 SD6 ED10 SN0017

Reg. District: Sheffield Sub District: East Brightside
Parish: Sheffield Enum. District: 10
Address: 220 Savile St Sheffield
County: Yorkshire (West riding)

GREENFIELD, Caroline Head Widow F 70 1841 Wisbech Camb
CUTTS, Edward Adopted Son Married M 29 1882 Railway Spring Fitter Sheffield Yorks
CUTTS, Florence Adopted Wife Married
9 years F 30 1881 Sheffield Yorks
CUTTS, Florence Adopted Daughter F 9 1902 Sheffield Yorks
CUTTS, Phyliss Adopted Daughter F 5 1906 Sheffield Yorks
CUTTS, Phillip Adopted Son M 3 1908 Sheffield Yorks
, Vera Adopted Daughter F 1 1910 Sheffield Yorks


Maureen

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 30 Oct 2010 22:26

Do you have his birth cert for his parents names?

Oh well.
You know who he married etc ,but we dont,so we cant try and find them on 1911 if they married before that census ,so therefore unable to try and trace him back with any certainty..

Margaret

Margaret Report 30 Oct 2010 22:26

I do know who he married and when, I also know what name he was married under and his fathers name and his occupation.

chrisa

chrisa Report 30 Oct 2010 22:24

Following on from FannyByGaslight

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1891 England Census
about Edward Greenfield
Name: Edward Greenfield
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1882
Relation: Son
Father's name: Philip Greenfield
Gender: Male
Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Brightside Bierlow
Ecclesiastical parish: Emmanuel
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: >>>>220 Saville Street

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Sheffield
Sub-registration district: Brightside
ED, institution, or vessel: 46
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Philip Greenfield 55
Caroline Greenfield 50
Edward Greenfield 9

Margaret

Margaret Report 30 Oct 2010 22:23

I was brought up as Cutts,when I went to get a Death Certificate for my Grandad it stated his name as Edward C Greenfield,I spoke to an elderly aunt who said that my eldest aunt was registered as Greenfield by Grandma Greenfield and the rest of the family were all registered as Cutts by my Grand Parents.

chrisa

chrisa Report 30 Oct 2010 22:22

Following the Cutts I found in 1901 they have an Edward with them in 1881 but he was born c 1874

1881 England Census
about Ellen Cults
Name: Ellen Cults
[Emily Amelia Cutts]
[Ellen Cutts]
Age: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1847
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Charles Cults
Gender: Female
Where born: Metfield, Suffolk, England

Civil Parish: Rumburgh
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street address: Gabble Street
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Blything
Sub-registration district: Halesworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Cults 38
Ellen Cults 34
Edward Cults 7
Emily A. Cults 6
Mabel Cults 5
Lewis Cults 3
Alfred Cults 1


EDIT so this family is totally wrong then

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 30 Oct 2010 22:18

Could you answer some of our questions please Margaret so we can try and get a grip on him?

This one??
It says born Sheffield,not Suffolk..!

1901
GREENFIELD, Phillip Head Married M 65 1836 Railway Spring Maker
Lincoln
Lincolnshire
GREENFIELD, Caroline Wife Married F 60 1841
Wil Sutton
Cambridgeshire
GREENFIELD, Edward Son Single M 19 1882 Railway Spring Maker
Sheffield
Yorkshire

Registration District:
Sheffield Sub District:
East Brightside Enumeration District:
14 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Attercliffe Emmanuel

Civil Parish:
Brightside Bierlow Municipal Borough:
Address:
220, Saville Street, Brightside Bierlow County:
Yorkshire (West riding)


How do you know he is that one on 1901 census and how do you know he was "adopted" by them please?

Margaret

Margaret Report 30 Oct 2010 22:15

That was quick unfortunately he was adopted by a Philip & Caroline Greenfield (dont know when), but on 1901 census he was listed as Edward Greenfield.
Thank you.

chrisa

chrisa Report 30 Oct 2010 22:14

Is this him?


1901 England Census
about Edward Cutts
Name: Edward Cutts
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1880
Relation: Son
Father's name: Charles Cutts
Mother's name: Emily Amerlia Cutts
Gender: Male
Where born: Rumburgh W, Suffolk, England

Civil Parish: All Saints and St Nicholas
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints and St Nicholas
Town: All Saints and St Nicholas
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Wangford
Sub-registration district: Bungay
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Cutts 56
Emily Amerlia Cutts 51
Edward Cutts 21
Herbert Cutts 15

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 30 Oct 2010 22:12

Kind of at a loss here. What is his name in 1881???

He wouldn't have been formally adopted in that era. How did you manage to get from Cutts to Greenfield?

Maureen

Edit-That's how long it takes me to type!!!