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In that case I would treat the father reference on the marriage cert with caution.


I have an ancestor who named his father as George on his marr cert. (same name as himself)
I could never find any other evidence.
He was brought up by his "grandfather" John. (not his mother's father)
Turns out his birth cert showed no father and John had no sons named George.

Hi Mike, I was informed that the name on his marriage cert. was Robert - farmer. There was a theory that maybe his mother wasn't married at the time of his birth.

Regards Margaret

Easy way to check ....

Did he name his father as Robert (farmer) on his marriage cert to Elizabeth ?

Thanks for the replies. I have been told that the father of Robert was also called Robert and that he was a farmer, but, I have not been able to establish this fact.

Regards Margaret

Sorry in 1851 he was a lodger and working as a grocer's assistant

Name: Robert Boak
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1829
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Northd, Rothbury

Civil Parish: Newcastle Upon Tyne St Nicholas
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Sub-registration district: St Nicholas
ED, institution, or vessel: 2e
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
George Mills 60
Hannah Mills 50
William Mills 20
Mary Mills 18
Ann Mills 13
George Coxon 22
Robert Boak 22
Elizabeth Codling 30
Ellen Hunt 73

As Robert didn't marry until latter part of 1851, he may be on 1851 census with an indication of his relationship to the household.

The 1851 census confirms the relationship as sisters

Name: Jessie Boak
Age: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1812
Relation: Sister-in-Law
Gender: Female
Where born: Berwick Upon Tweed

Civil Parish: Rothbury
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Rothbury
Sub-registration district: Rothbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 19b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 66
Household Members:
Name Age
William Turner 54
Catharine Turner 42
Jessie Boak 39

Also


MARY BOAK --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Event(s):
Birth: 08 JAN 1810

Christening: 10 JUN 1810 Berwick Upon Tweed, Northumberland, England

Death:
Burial:
Parents:
Father: WILLIAM BOAK
Mother: BARBARA DONKIN


|Robert could well be the son of any of the sisters.... or perhaps his father was Christopher or Samuel.

On the Family Search beta site there is also a birth of a Jessy Boak to the same couple at Berwick on 07 Jun 1812 so it looks like the sisters never married

Best bet is still Robert's marriage cert which will hopefully give you his father's name

The Barbara in 1841 census looks like Catherine's sister

BARBARA ANN BOAK --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Event(s):
Birth: 14 JAN 1798

Christening: 07 AUG 1798 Rothbury, Northumberland, England

Parents:
Father: WILLIAM BOAK
Mother: BARBARA DONKIN



other children of William and Barbara

. CHRISTOPHER BOAK - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 08 FEB 1802 Rothbury, Northumberland, England

ANNE BOAK - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 16 MAY 1806 Rothbury, Northumberland, England

SAMUEL BOAK - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 05 JAN 1790 Rothbury, Northumberland, England

and .....

JESSY BOAK
Female

Event(s):
Birth: 02 JUN 1812

Christening: 07 JUN 1812 Berwick Upon Tweed, Northumberland, England
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Parents:
Father: WILLIAM BOAK
Mother: BARBARA DONKIN

1881

Robert BOAK Head M Male 52 Rothbury, Northumberland, England News Agent
Elizabeth BOAK Wife M Female 50 Newcastle, Northumberland, England
William BOAK Son U Male 26 Newcastle, Northumberland, England Book Finisher & Binder
Robert BOAK Son U Male 24 Newcastle, Northumberland, England House Painter Unemployed
Christopher BOAK Son U Male 22 Newcastle, Northumberland, England House Painter Unemployed
Francis BOAK Son U Male 14 Newcastle, Northumberland, England Errand Boy
Barbara A. BOAK Daur Female 11 Newcastle, Northumberland, England Scholar
Mary J. BOAK Daur Female 8 Newcastle, Northumberland, England Scholar


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Source Information:
Dwelling 23 Diana St
Census Place Westgate, Northumberland, England
Family History Library Film 1342217
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 5047 / 167
Page Number 15

.........and this may be Catherine ( ages rounded down in 1841)

CATHERINE BOAK --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Event(s):
Birth: 25 SEP 1807

Christening: 27 DEC 1807 Rothbury, Northumberland, England

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Parents:
Father: WILLIAM BOAK
Mother: BARBARA DONKIN

Barbara could well be the daughter of Catherine

BARBARA BOOK Pedigree
Female
Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
31 MAR 1839 Saint Andrew, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, E
Parents:
Mother: CATHARINE BOOK

Perhaps this is sister Barbara (mistranscribed) in which case her birth certificate may help

Births Sep 1838 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

BOAG Barbara - Newcastle on Tyne 25 277

For marriage reference

Household:1881

Robert BOAK Head M Male 52 Rothbury, Northumberland, England News Agent
Elizabeth BOAK Wife M Female 50 Newcastle, Northumberland, England
William BOAK Son U Male 26 Newcastle, Northumberland, England Book Finisher & Binder
Robert BOAK Son U Male 24 Newcastle, Northumberland, England House Painter Unemployed
Christopher BOAK Son U Male 22 Newcastle, Northumberland, England House Painter Unemployed
Francis BOAK Son U Male 14 Newcastle, Northumberland, England Errand Boy
Barbara A. BOAK Daur Female 11 Newcastle, Northumberland, England Scholar
Mary J. BOAK Daur Female 8 Newcastle, Northumberland, England Scholar


Dwelling 23 Diana St
Census Place Westgate, Northumberland, England



Hence .........

Marriages Dec 1851 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

*****************Boak Robert Newcastle T. 25 444
CRAIG Robert Newtle Tyne 25 444
**************Mitchinson Elizabeth Newcastle T. 25 444
Simpson Margaret Newcastle T 25 444


You should be able to get his father from this certificate.

1841 census, for reference:

BOAK, Barbara F 40 1801 Northumberland << Shopkeeper
BOAK, Catharine F 30 1811 Northumberland
BOAK, Jessie F 25 1816 Northumberland
BOAK, Robert M 12 1829 Northumberland
BOAK, Barbara F 2 1839 Northumberland
JOBSON, Margaret F 10 1831 Northumberland
PHILLIPSON, Thomas M 25 1816 Northumberland

RG number:
HO107 Piece:
831 Book/Folio:
17/23 Page:
8

Registration District:
Rothbury Sub District:
Rothbury Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Rothbury Municipal Borough:
Address:
Rothbury, Rothbury County:
Northumberland

Am trying to find the parents of the above person, who was born in Rothbury, Northumberland 1829.

Would appreciate any help. Thanks.

Margaret