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Hi Catherine. Thanks for checking this out. That would explain why Mary wasn't on the next census in 1851and why Christina was free to marry Francis Wright in 1849. How tragic.
Elaine

Mary is the daughter of Alexander in the death records of 1843.

Catherine

These are posilbilities:

Deaths

1 24/01/1843 DUNCAN MARY ALEXR DUNCAN F AIRTH /STIRLING 469/00 0050 0171

1 14/01/1843 DUNCAN ALEXANDER M AIRTH /STIRLING 469/00 0050 0170

Catherine

The problem with the Old Parish Records is that not all marriages, indeed births or deaths are recorded. I saw the marriage you mention, although there is no record of the Alexander/Christiina wedding, it doesn't meanit didn't happen.

Catherine

Hi Catherine
Had a look through the Old Parish records - oddly enough Alexander Duncan married a MARGARET Scobbie in Jan 1839. And none of the James Scobbies who married in the period 1780-1820 in the whole of Scotland were married to anyone with the forename Mary. So frustrating when records don't tie up!!! Maybe James and his daughter wanted to cover their tracks with a shed load of red herrings. I think I maybe need to accept that it's a mystery that will never be solved. Grrrrrrrrrrr.
Cheers.
Elaine

Difficult to know what happened to Alexander and Mary as registration not until 1855. The reason I highlighted Mary Mercer is IGI has a lot of births in Larbert around the same time. Could not find any other James Scobbie or Mary. Realise it's a bit random.

Catherine

Catherine
Thanks so much for the additional info. Oh my goodness - 2 census entries for 1841 both at Carron Shore and involving two different Christina Duncans! Given that the Christina who is married to Alexander Duncan has the correct maiden name, then this would seem to be the right one. Strange though that Christina married Francis Wright in 1849 i.e only 8 years later. What happened to Alexander and Mary?
Christina died in 1887 and her death entry shows her father as James Scobbie a merchant seaman - her mother is Mary but I couldn't make out the handwriting for the surname. So can I ask where you found the name Mercer? Any idea where James and Mary came from?
I am so grateful for you help and that of the others. Nobody in my tree has cost me so much time, money and trouble as Christina Scobbie. I would love to tie up the loose ends.
Cheers.
Elaine

Parents could be James Scobbie and Mary Mercer.

Catherine

This may be the birth of your Christina's daughter Mary.

No Date Surname Forename Parent Names
Frame No. S
e
x Parish City/
County GROS
Data Image Extract
1 01/01/1839 DUNCAN MARY ALEXANDER DUNCAN/CHRISTIAN SCOBBIE FR493 LARBERT /STIRLING 485/00 0020 0207

1841

Name: Mary Duncan
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1840
Gender: Female
Where born: Stirlingshire, Scotland

Civil Parish: Larbert
County: Stirlingshire
Address: Carron Shore
Parish Number: 485
Household Members:
Name Age
Alexr Duncan 25
Christina Duncan 25
Mary Duncan 1

I don't know if these are correct but thought I would post them.

Catherine

Helen
Thanks for the info. I've searched on births for Christina Duncan between 1800 and 1815 but there are only 2 and these occurred in Kirkcudbright and Angus which contradicts her saying she was born in Stirlingshire. So the Christina Duncan on the census acquired the surname Duncan at some point but not at birth. As for marriage to John Duncan - no way. The only John Duncan marriage which took place between 1800 and 1841was in 1816 at which point Christina was only 5 or thereabouts. So I'm going to make the assumption that she was living with John in her capacity as childless widow of a son of his. What a jigsaw puzzle!
Elaine

At a guess, I would suggest Charles Glass was a ... Free Church Minister.


Here is the same census transcribed on Freecen:

Piece: SCT1841/485 Place: Larbert -Stirlingshire Enumeration District: 8
Civil Parish: Larbert Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Larbert
Folio: 485 Page: 12
Address: Carronshore

Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
DUNCAN John M 65 Farmer Stirlingshire
GLASS Charles M 25 Preacher Of God Outside Census County (1841)
DUNCAN Christina F 30 Stirlingshire
DUNCAN Mary F 20 Unknown
NEWTON Archd M 25 Agricultural Labourer Stirlingshire

K , Ginny and Anne
Yes it sounds as though Charles Glass was probably just passing through Carron Shore in 1841, before setting up his own household in his home turf of Kincardineshire. I am intrigued by his occupation as a Fred Chwick Minister - which church would that be?
Getting back to Christina Scobbie/ Duncan/ Wright - do you think she (at the age of 30) was married to the 65 year old John Duncan or could she have been married to a son of his who has died? The plot thickens!
Elaine

I dont know if this helps at all!

1851 Scotland Census
about Charles Glass
Name: Charles Glass
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1815
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name: Isabella Glass
Gender: Male
Where born: Birse, Kincardine
Parish Number: 263
Civil Parish: Laurencekirk
Town: Laurencekirk
County: Kincardineshire
Address: Garvock Street
Occupation: Fred Chwick Minister
ED: 4
Page: 11 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 49
Line: 10
Roll: CSSCT1851_55
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Glass 36
Isabella Glass 28
Charles G Glass 3
Elisabeth M Glass 2
James M Glass 3 MO
Alexina Lawson 17 Servant

Tracey on TTF does Scotland look ups...

In 1841 John Duncan is listed as a farmer, Charles Glass is a preacher and Archibald Newton was an ag lab. So maybe Charles was a visiting preacher

CHRISTINA MCA. SCOBBIE Pedigree
Female Family
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Marriages:
Spouse: JAMES MCCULLOCH Family
Marriage: 06 JUL 1860 Larbert, Stirling, Scotland
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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

Hi Ginny
Brilliant! Yes - this all looks like her. I do find the 1841 census entry rather intriguing - all those different ages and surnames in one household - what was going on there I wonder? I have quite a few more gaps to fill in the family tree for relatives who were around before the introduction of the statutory records in 1855 - it's a pity that the earliest census we have is 1841.
Anyway, thanks so much for your help.
Elaine

1851 Scotland Census
about Christian Wright
Name: Christian Wright
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1811
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name: Francis Wright
Gender: Female
Where born: Larbert, Stirlingshire
Parish Number: 485
Civil Parish: Larbert
Town: Nailer Row
County: Stirlingshire
Address: Nailer Row
ED: 4
Page: 27 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 112
Line: 9
Roll: CSSCT1851_102
Household Members: Name Age
Francis Wright 32
Christian Wright 40
Catherine Wright 2
Agnes Wright 2 MO



1861 Scotland Census
about Agnes Wright
Name: Agnes Wright
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Relationship: Daughter
Father's name: Francis Wright
Mother's name: Christina Wright
Gender: Female
Where born: Larbert, Stirlingshire
Registration Number: 479/1
Registration district: Falkirk Burgh
Civil Parish: Falkirk Burgh
County: Stirlingshire
Address: 15 W.side Bains
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 10
Household schedule number: 38
Line: 12
Roll: CSSCT1861_64
Household Members: Name Age
Francis Wright 39
Christina Wright 44
Catherine Wright 14
Agnes Wright 11
Mary Wright 7
Jane Wright 2



1871 Scotland Census
about Christina Wright
Name: Christina Wright
Age: 56
Estimated birth year: abt 1815
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : Francis Wright
Gender: Female
Where born: Falkirk, Stirlingshire
Registration Number: 479/1
Registration district: Falkirk Burgh
Civil Parish: Falkirk Burgh
County: Stirlingshire
Address: No 1 Black Close
ED: 10
Household schedule number: 85
Line: 23
Roll: CSSCT1871_83
Household Members: Name Age
Francis Wright 55
Christina Wright 56
Agnes Wright 19
Jane Wright 10

Does this look like her

1841 Scotland Census
about Christina Duncan
Name: Christina Duncan
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1811
Gender: Female
Where born: Stirlingshire, Scotland

Civil Parish: Larbert
County: Stirlingshire
Address: Carron Shone
Parish Number: 485
Household Members: Name Age
John Duncan 65
Charles Glass 25
Christina Duncan 30
Mary Duncan 20
Archibald Newton 25

Christina Scobbie c1810-1887. Larbert/ Falkirk area. Have gone up many dead ends with this search as there are a few with the same name in the same area. Her parents were James and Mary Scobbie. Christina may have had 2 marriages - firstly to a DUNCAN and then to Francis WRIGHT in 1849. Their daughter Mary Wright was my great grandmother. Would love to know more about Christina and her parents as she sounds like a character!
Cheers.
Elaine