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Can anyone find Phoebe/Phebe Bester?

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Ann

Ann Report 3 Jan 2011 10:11

I know Phoebe Bester married Richard James in 1824 in Godmanchester Huntingdonshire. I have seen census records for them for 1841 to 1871. Richard died in 1879, not sure about Phoebe.

I believe that she was born around 1803 in Huntingdonshire, possibly Godmanchester.

1841 census for reference

1841 England Census
about Puea James
Name: Puea James
[Richard James]
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1801
Gender: Male
Where born: Huntingdonshire, England

Civil parish: St Ives
Hundred: Hurstingstone
County/Island: Huntingdonshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: St Ives
Sub-registration district: St Ives
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Puea James 40
Phoebe James 35
Emma James 10
Naomi James 6
Chas James 4
Fredk James 2
Walter James 9 Mo
Wm Aben 20


Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 448; Book: 11; Civil Parish: St Ives; County: Huntingdonshire; Enumeration District: 3; Folio: 26; Page: 47; Line: 23; GSU roll: 288835.

Susan

Susan Report 3 Jan 2011 10:26

Possible bapts.

England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
about Phoeby Bastin OR Baster
Name: Phoeby Bastin OR Baster
Gender: Female
Birth Date: abt 1803
Christening Date: 13 Apr 1803
Christening Place: Godmanchester, Huntingdonshire, England
Father's name: Thomas Bastin OR Baster
Mother's name: Elizabeth

Researching:
Haycock ...London and Gloucestershire , Walters... South Wales and Gloucestershire , Lewis... South Wales , French ...Nottingham and Essex.

Ann

Ann Report 3 Jan 2011 10:32

Hi Susan,
This is certainly interesting. Is it possible is could be a transcription mistake? I know that Phoebe and Richard used Bester as a middle name for at least one of their children.

Ann

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 3 Jan 2011 10:36

You may find this site useful

http://aztecrose.tripod.com/hun.html

mac

mac Report 3 Jan 2011 10:39

The 1871 census image is very poor, but it looks like he is a widow - possible death for Phebe:

Deaths Mar 1863 (>99%)
James Phebe St. Ives 3b 193

Ann

Ann Report 3 Jan 2011 10:43

LadyKira,
Thanks, I had found the site you refer to but don't I need to know the parish?

Ann

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 3 Jan 2011 10:47

It looks like a lookup site to me. you can eliminate the parishes one by one.

I just found it and was wondering about some of mine.

Ann

Ann Report 3 Jan 2011 10:52

LadyKira,
Thanks, I have just had a look and found that one person looks up several parishes including Godmanchester so I have emailed her.

Thanks for your help.

Ann

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 3 Jan 2011 10:58

Do you have the marriage?

JAMES, Richard Marriage
Wife: Phoebe BESTER
Marriage Date: 17 Oct 1824 Recorded in: Godmanchester, Huntingdonshire, England
Source: FHL Film 1040624 Dates: 1813 - 1872

Also the same baptism that Susan posted, this one from BVRI:

BASTIN OR BASTER, Phoeby Christening
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 13 Apr 1803 Recorded in: Godmanchester, Huntingdonshire, England
Father: Thomas BASTIN OR BASTER
Mother: Elizabeth
Source: FHL Film 1040994 Dates: 1800 - 1875

Researching:
Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)

Ann

Ann Report 3 Jan 2011 11:00

Hello Margaret,
Yes thanks I have the marriage. What is BVRI?

Ann

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 3 Jan 2011 11:00

A possible brother:

BASTIN OR BASTER, Thomas Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 21 Apr 1802 Recorded in: Godmanchester, Huntingdonshire, England
Father: Thomas BASTIN OR BASTER
Mother: Elizabeth
Source: FHL Film 1040994 Dates: 1800 - 1875

Researching:
Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 3 Jan 2011 11:03

BVRI is British Vital Records Index, a set of cd's that I purchased years ago from Familysearch. They're no longer for sale, I believe the records are all online now but the cd's make it so much easier to do look-ups. They are extracted from parish records.

Researching:
Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 3 Jan 2011 11:07

Possible marriage of Phoebe's brother Thomas:

BESTER, Thomas Marriage
Wife: Elizabeth PAPWORTH
Marriage Date: 13 Jun 1824 Recorded in: Godmanchester, Huntingdonshire, England
Source: FHL Film 1040624 Dates: 1813 - 1872

Researching:
Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)

Ann

Ann Report 3 Jan 2011 11:08

Margaret,
That possible brother is very interesting but really adds to me confusion. Would it be normal for a name to be corrupted like this? I know that Bester was used as a second name for a couple of generations and the marriage record is for Bester

Ann

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 3 Jan 2011 11:12

BVRI has 2 children of Richard & Phoebe in Godmanchester, Sophia 1826 and George Joseph 1828. Do you have them?

Researching:
Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 3 Jan 2011 11:16

Oh yes, I've seen worse name corruption than that. I would say that the name was Bester but that the birth records were hard to read. I believe they're the same 2 children, baptised Bastin or Baster and married as Bester.

Researching:
Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)

Ann

Ann Report 3 Jan 2011 11:21

Hi Margaret,
Yes I have them. Strangely I don't have the birth of their daughter Naomi who was my ancestor!

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 3 Jan 2011 11:22

She's on a couple of trees on Ancestry saying that she was born 1803, Godmanchester, daughter of Thomas & Elizabeth, and died 1863, St. Ives. There are 9 children listed.

Edit: The tree has Naomi born abt. 1835, St. Ives.

Researching:
Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)

Ann

Ann Report 3 Jan 2011 11:31

I have 9 children for Richard and Phoebe which I have got through census records