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Samson family in Kent

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Ruth

Ruth Report 6 Jan 2011 22:52

Hi, can anyone help find more details for a John Samson?

John Samson was born in 1810 in Stone, Kent, England.
He married Margeret and they had 6 children called

John Samson ( 1852 – ?),
Mary A Samson (1854 – ?),
Henry Rofe Samson (1855 – 1943),
Benjamin H Samson (1857 – ?),
Elizabeth Samson (1858 – ?)
Haffenden Stephen Samson (1860 – 1913)

Haffendon is my great great grandad and I have cencus records for Haffendon and his father John Samson.

For John I have the below.
Birth 1810, Stone, Kent, England :4 source citations
1861 Cencus , Age: 51
Residence: New Romney, Kent, England :1 source citation
1871 Cencus, Age: 61
Residence:St Peter, Essex, England :1 source citation
1881 Cencus, Age: 71
Residence:Colchester St Peter, Essex, England :1 source citation
1891 Cencus,Age: 81
Residence:St Peter, Essex, England : 1 source citation

but I cannot find anything before the 1861 cencus where he was approx 51 years old. Can anyone help please?

Ruth

Ruth Report 6 Jan 2011 22:54

I have looked here without much joy but there is a lot to go through and not really sure its even in the right area but followed someone else on another very old thread on ancestry who was looking for another Samson family, sadly not mine though.

samson - kent searches records online
http://cityark.medway.gov.uk/

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 6 Jan 2011 23:07

1851 ?
Name: John Samson
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1811
Relation: Nephew
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Stone, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Headcorn
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Hollingbourn
Sub-registration district: Hollingbourn
ED, institution, or vessel: 8a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Davis 77
John Samson 40
Margt Samson 54

Occupation of carpenter which matches the 1861

Ruth

Ruth Report 6 Jan 2011 23:11

Thats' certainly a possibility.
Although I have details of his wife and children, I have no details of anything above him.

patchem

patchem Report 6 Jan 2011 23:16


1841 England Census
John Samson Age: 29 Estimated birth year: abt 1812
Gender: Male Where born: Kent, England Civil Parish: Stone Hundred: Oxney County/Island: Kent
Country: England registration district: Tenterden Sub-registration district: Rolvenden

John Samson 29 Tye House Farm Farmer
Sarrah Samson 25
Mariana Samson 4
Ellen Samson 1

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 479; Book: 16; Civil Parish: Stone; County: Kent; Enumeration District: 16; Folio: 8; Page: 8; Line: 3; GSU roll: 306873.

Added: This is the wrong family, as found them in 1851, Sorry.

Deaths Mar 1848
SAMSON Sarah Tenterden 5 403

patchem

patchem Report 6 Jan 2011 23:18

Do you know Margaret's maiden name from a child's birth certificate?
Thanks

Ruth

Ruth Report 6 Jan 2011 23:21

Oh thats interesting patchem.
If thats a correct match, then I wonder where the children went. as those names are not on the 1861 cencus although they would have been older so maybe not living at home.

Just thinking as I type here!

Ruth

Ruth Report 6 Jan 2011 23:22

No it just says Margaret M which is hopeless!

Ruth

Ruth Report 6 Jan 2011 23:24

Samson was a popular name in Kent, a family of travellers I've been told, who were based in Kent

patchem

patchem Report 6 Jan 2011 23:31

Just wondered if this was the marriage:
Marriages Mar 1850
Baylis Kerzia Bromley 5 275
Fielding George Hollingbourne 5 275
Hammond Rosa Hollingbourne 5 275
xxx Martin Margaret Martha Hollingbourne 5 275
Peerless Joseph Hollingbourne 5 275
Russell Emma Elizabeth Hollingbourne 5 275
xxx Samson John Hollingbourne 5 275

Have you got all the children's birth certificates, to see if one gives her maiden name, and I am assuming she has been married before.

Ruth

Ruth Report 6 Jan 2011 23:37

I've only got Haffendon's and it says Margaret M and then Samson.
There is no maiden name which is annoying as I bought it to get it!

Fortunately Haffendon is an unusual name so I know I have the right one.

Ruth

Ruth Report 24 Jan 2011 16:27

Okay, I now know that the surname of Margaret is Martin from Rofe Samson, which is one of the children.

Also I found a web site that is /has been researching Samson in Kent area and the above marriage from patchem is the right one so thanks for that!!!

I now have these added to my tree but am still not getting anything for John's birth although there is one record which is a christenning so I can't see details. Also for his wedding on 1 Feb 1850 I have no found records / matches so have no details of his parents.

Can anyone view the christenning record for me please?

patchem

patchem Report 24 Jan 2011 19:33

As that is the correct marriage, you can buy the certificate for Fathers' names?

Ruth

Ruth Report 5 Jun 2011 23:45

Margaret Martha Martin's father is John Martin, Birth 1760
Not got much further on but found loads on her husband

John Samson Birth 6 Sept 1811 in Stone, Oxney, Kent, England
Death 8 Jun 1897 in Plumstead, London, England

Father Stephen Samson 1773 Stone in Oxney, Kent.
Mother Elizabeth Rose 1783 or 1785
siblings:
Stephen Samson 1806 –
Elizabeth Samson 1810 –
Joseph Samson 1812 –
Sarah Samson 1816 –
Robert Samson 1817 –
Mary Samson 1819 –
William Samson 1821 –
Frederick Samson 1822 –
Edwin Samson 1825 –
George Haffenden Samson 1829 – 1878

Grandparents and father of Stephen Samson 1773 Stone in Oxney, Kent.
John Samson Birth Abt 1755 in Stone in Oxney, Kent, England
Sarah Haffenden 1759 – 1785
Joseph Samson 1780 –
Robert Samson 1785 – 1785

It appears Sarah's surname Haffendon was then used as a first name later on for her grandchildren and onwards, which is intersting as I did wonder about the name Haffendon.