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I am trying to trace a family comprising Caroline Ryan (nee O'Mahoney) or (Caroline Beane,) children Gertrude, May, Rose, & James (think their surname would be Ryan) who lived at both 6 Poulett Road, Manor Park, East Ham, London, and 39 Sibley Grove, Manor Park, East Ham, London, in either the 1911 Census, could be under the name Ryan or Beane; in the 1901 Census if there would be under the name Ryan. There was another daughter Eileen b.Sep 1911 under the name Beane, but this would be after the census was taken I believe, and I have found her birth, but am trying to trace the rest of this family.

Can anyone help please,
Thank you

Helen

1911 census - address transcription
Address: 6 Poulett Road East Ham E

Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

BEANE, James Head Married M 44 1867 Ships Steward Hanworth Norfolk
BEANE, Caroline Wife Married 13 years F 36 1875 Tailoress Kentish Town
BEANE, Rose Daughter F 11 1900 School Stepney
BEANE, Gertrude Daughter Single F 7 1904 School Pliastow
BEANE, Emily May Daughter Single F 3 1908 School East Ham Essex
BEANE, Gilbert James Son Single M 2 1909 School East Ham Essex
RYAN, Charles Edward Friend Widower M 35 1876 Stevedore Middlesex St Georges
RYAN, Norah Friend Single F 3 1908 East Ham Essex
PRIGH, Gilbert Friend Single M 35 1876 Ships Steward Worcester

original states 5 children born to marrige at time of census, all still living

they're not at 39 Sibley Grove on 1901 census - address transcription
Address: 39, Sibley Grove, East Ham

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation, Disability Where Born

PEGGS, Lucy Wife Widow F 68 1833 Brightlingsea Essex
PEGGS, Thomas Son Single M 24 1877 Commercial Clerk Islington London

birth dates of James and Caroline fit but?????????????

1901 census - household transcription
Person: BEAN, James
Address: 41, Appian Road, Bow Or Stratford-Le-Bow

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born

BEAN, James Head Married M 34 1867 Labourer (Contractor's) Bow London
BEAN, Caroline Wife Married F 28 1873 Bow London
BEAN, James Son M 9 1892 Bow London
BEAN, George Son M 7 1894 Bow London
BEAN, Alfred Son M 5 1896 Bow London
BRUKELL, George Boarder Single M 34 1867 Carman (For Contractor) Bow London

Thank you so much for the above information; can you tell me who was living at 39 Sibley Grove, East Ham, in the 1911 census at all? and who was living at 6 Poulett Road, East Ham in the 1901 census.

I am doing this research on behalf of an elderly cousin, (I live in NZ) and just want to confirm all the information.

Thank you once again,

Helen

Thank you for all this information it is terrific, now we can proceed with this family.

I'm wondering about this chain (common daughter named Rose)

Marriages Dec 1897 (>99%)
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Brüllau William Henry St. Geo. East 1c 654
MAHONEY Caroline Susannah St. Geo. East 1c 654

Children:
Births Sep 1898 (>99%)
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Brullan Dorothy May Stepney 1c 421

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Births Mar 1900 (>99%)
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Brüllan Rose Emily Stepney 1c 433



Marriages Sep 1902 (>99%)
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>>> Beane James West Ham 4a 673
>>> Brullan Caroline Susanna W. Ham 4a 673

Just cant find a death for William Brullau/Brullan

Where did you get Ryan from? Is it just the other members of the household in 1911?

you're welcome

2 households at 39 Sibley Grove Manor Park E on 1911 census

Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

RUGGLES, George Head Married M 44 1867 Wharf Labourer Ballingdon Essex
RUGGLES, Sabina Malia Wife Married F 38 1873 Stratford Essex
RUGGLES, Violet Ada Daughter F 11 1900 Canning Town Essex
RUGGLES, George Victor Son M 4 1907 East Ham Essex
LEWSEY, Lydia Widow F 54 1857 Sudbury Suffolk


and

1911 census - address transcription
Address: 39 Sibley Grove Manor Park E

Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born

MAHONEY, J Father Married M 68 1843 Tailor Borris County Carlow Ireland
MAHONEY, Susen Mother Married 32 years F 57 1854 Denostick Bethelgreen London
MAHONEY, Alica Daughter Single F 25 1886 Demostick Servant Stepney London
MAHONEY, Harold Sidney Clark Single M 18 1893 Clark In The Stock Exchang Stepney London
BANE, Dorothy Granddaughter Single F 12 1899 Going To School Parish Gate Stepney London VIEW

I was looking for a death for Dorothy Brullan as she didnt appear in the 1911 posted above but there she is with maternal Grandparents - yay!

1901 census - people living with Caroline Brullan:

BRULLAN, Dorothy M 1899 2 F West Ham Essex VIEW VIEW
BRULLAN, Rose E 1900 1 F West Ham Essex VIEW VIEW
MAHONEY, Alice 1886 15 F West Ham Essex VIEW VIEW
MAHONEY, Harold 1893 8 M West Ham Essex VIEW VIEW
MAHONEY, James 1843 58 M West Ham Essex VIEW VIEW
MAHONEY, James 1882 19 M West Ham Essex VIEW VIEW
MAHONEY, Lily 1891 10 F West Ham Essex VIEW VIEW
MAHONEY, May 1889 12 F West Ham Essex VIEW VIEW
MAHONEY, Susan 1854 47 F West Ham Essex VIEW VIEW
MAHONEY, William 1884 17 M West Ham Essex VIEW

Maybe Tempest you could provide the address & relationships for this household??

6 Poulett Road doesn't seem to be on the 1901, it goes 1,3, 3, 5, 7

pleased to oblige

1901 census - household transcription
Person: BRULLAN, Dorothy M
Address: 58, Gladstone Avenue, East Ham

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born

MAHONEY, James Head Married M 58 1843 Tailor Ireland
MAHONEY, Susan Wife Married F 47 1854 Stepney London
BRULLAN, Caroline Daughter Married F 27 1874 Tailoress Stepney London
BRULLAN, Dorothy M Grand Daughter F 2 1899 Stepney London
BRULLAN, Rose E Grand Daughter F 1 1900 Stepney London
MAHONEY, James Son Single M 19 1882 Tailor Stepney London
MAHONEY, William Son M 17 1884 Commercial Clerk Stepney London
MAHONEY, Alice Daughter F 15 1886 Stepney London
MAHONEY, Lily Daughter F 10 1891 Stepney London
MAHONEY, Harold Son M 8 1893 Stepney London
MAHONEY, May Daughter F 12 1889 Stepney London

Hi everyone
I got a birthday card yesterday from my friend containing a slip of paper from her boyfriend (who I have met once 13 years ago) asking me if I can find anything about William Henry Brullau born in 1861 and Caroline Susannah Beane, so this morning I typed his name into Google and this thread is one of the hits I got. On the paper her boyfriend has written that William was a ship's carpenter who died at sea by going overboard between 1899 and 1903, possibly on an Australian passenger liner. He also says that Caroline committed bigamy by marrying Charles Ryan in 1917. So looking at the notes on here, Caroline Mahoney initially married William, and then he vanished at sea on an Australian liner, so she married James Beane in 1902. In 1911 they had a lodger called Charles Ryan who she then married in 1917.
William Brullau is not a common name, and in the same Google search results I found a death notice for a William Brullau in Adelaide, Southern Australia. It says he died on 28th December 1909 at the age of 41. I know that our William would have been 47 by then, but 41 could be a transcription error, or the person placing the notice may not have known his exact age. It seems like a coincidence that our William disappeared on an Australian liner and a man with his name died in Australia a few years later so I think this could possibly be him. Perhaps he went off to work one day and couldn’t face coming home! I haven’t been able to find any census for Southern Australia online. The link to the death notice is:
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/5214282?searchTerm=&searchLimits=l-publictag=Eliza+Legarey
I would welcome any thoughts on this and thank you for all the information so far in this thread.

Hello Jane and welcome to the boards.

Unfortunately, you have replied to a thread from earlier this year and it is possible that Helen is not checking for replies anymore.

You can try clicking on her name and sending your message that way. If she still has the same email address, she will be notified.


If you would like help with your research, then why not start a thread of your own and people will help you. Take a look at the first post on this board for further info. Regards. Cx.

Also, try putting the names you are researching into the Search Trees box above (in the dark green bar) to see if anyone on this site has them in their tree. If you find a connection, you can contact the tree owner. Cx.

Thank you for your advice Cynthia. I will send a message to Helen.