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Tiberian

Tiberian Report 8 Jan 2011 02:14

hi guys i am just trying to clear a few things up can anyone give me the parents of Amos Statham b abt 1860 and his wife Judeth or Judith Statham b abt 1866 both from Newbold Verdon area Leicestershire
kind regards Kevin

jax

jax Report 8 Jan 2011 02:19

1871

Name: Amos Statham
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Relation: Son
Father's name: John Statham
Mother's name: Mary Statham
Gender: Male
Where born: Newbold Vr
Civil Parish: Newbold
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Market Bosworth
Sub-registration district: Market Bosworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 174
Household Members: Name Age
John Statham 56
Mary Statham 40
Sarah Statham 17
Nimrod Statham 15
Elizth Statham 12
Amos Statham 10
Samuel Statham 7
Herbert Statham 4
Albert Statham 2 Months


Vanessa

Vanessa Report 8 Jan 2011 02:22

Have checked their marriage, which is in Leicester so on that basis possibly this birth:

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
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Births Sep 1858 (>99%)
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Staton Amos Jesse Taunton 5c 412

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Births Mar 1861 (>99%)
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>>> STATHAM Amos Mt Bosworth 7a 64

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Births Mar 1865 (>99%)
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Stedman Amos Richardson Uckfield 2b 91


On familysearch.org:

AMOS STATHAM Pedigree
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Event(s):
Birth: 01 FEB 1861

Christening: 25 AUG 1861 Newbold Verdon, Leicester, England
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Parents:
Father: JOHN STATHAM Family
Mother: MARY
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

Vanessa

Vanessa Report 8 Jan 2011 02:23

Ties up nicely with Jax posting :)

jax

jax Report 8 Jan 2011 02:23

Name: John Statham
Year of Registration: 1853
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Market Bosworth
County: Leicestershire
Volume: 7a
Page: 117 (click to see others on page)

Mary Argyle

tempest

tempest Report 8 Jan 2011 02:24

possible marriage

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Amos Statham Name: Amos Statham
Year of Registration: 1884
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Leicester (1837-1974)
County: Leicestershire
Volume: 7a
Page: 285

on same page is

Name: Judith Statham
Year of Registration: 1884
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Leicester (1837-1974)
County: Leicestershire
Volume: 7a
Page: 285

tempest

tempest Report 8 Jan 2011 02:26

a possibility for Judith and parents, you'd need marriage cert to confirm fathers name

1881 census - household transcription
Person: STATHAM, Judith
Address: Pegs Yard, Newbold-Verdon

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born

STATHAM, Arthur Head Married M 22 1859 Coal Miner Newbold Verdon Leicestershire
STATHAM, Elizabeth Wife Married F 51 1830 House Keeper Witherly Leicestershire
STATHAM, Jelina Daughter Single F 17 1864 Domestic Servant Newbold Verdon Leicestershire
STATHAM, Judith Daughter Single F 15 1866 Domestic Servant Newbold Verdon Leicestershire

not sure about Arthur, looking at the original this is not mistranscribed, I think the Arthur in this is actually Elizabeth's son, please see 1871 census below

Vanessa

Vanessa Report 8 Jan 2011 02:32

tempest can you find judith in earlier census - Arthurs age is clearly not right!

Just trying to establish a possible link between John & Arthur

tempest

tempest Report 8 Jan 2011 02:33

I'd say the enumerator made an error when writing the 1881 census, here's Judith and her parents in 1871

1871 census - household transcription
Person: STATHAM, Judith
Address: Hunt's Lane, Newbold Verdon, Leices

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

STATHAM, Charles Head M 45 1826 Leicestershire
STATHAM, Elizth Wife F 44 1827 Leicestershire
STATHAM, Arthur Son M 12 1859 Leicestershire
STATHAM, Elijah Son M 9 1862 Leicestershire
STATHAM, Jamima Daughter F 7 1864 Leicestershire
STATHAM, Judith Daughter F 5 1866 Leicestershire
STATHAM, Leisa Daughter F 2 1869 Leicestershire

Vanessa

Vanessa Report 8 Jan 2011 02:40

Amos in 1881:

Mary STATHAM Head W Female 49 Desford, Leicester, England Stitcher
Nimrod STATHAM Son U Male 25 Newbold Verdon, Leicester, England Labourer (Ag)
Amos STATHAM Son U Male 20 Newbold Verdon, Leicester, England Labourer (Ag)
Samuel STATHAM Son Male 17 Newbold Verdon, Leicester, England Labourer (Ag)
Hurbert STATHAM Son Male 14 Newbold Verdon, Leicester, England Farm Work
James A. STATHAM Son Male 10 Newbold Verdon, Leicester, England Scholar
George W. STATHAM Son Male 6 Newbold Verdon, Leicester, England Scholar
Walter John STATHAM Grandson Male 8 Newbold Verdon, Leicester, England Scholar
Charles STATHAM Lodger M Male 52 Newbold Verdon, Leicester, England Labourer (Ag)

Vanessa

Vanessa Report 8 Jan 2011 02:41

I think the Arthur in 1881 posted by tempest is the son, acting as head while father Charles is lodging with the in-laws?

jax

jax Report 8 Jan 2011 02:42

Judiths parents

Marriages Mar 1856 (>99%)
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Statham Charles M Bosworth 7a 129
Wright Elizabeth Mt. Bosworth 7a 129

Vanessa

Vanessa Report 8 Jan 2011 02:48

1841 census for household including Charles

STATHAM, David 1830 11 M Market Bosworth Leicestershire
STATHAM, Martha 1781 60 F Market Bosworth Leicestershire VIEW VIEW
STATHAM, Martha 1823 18 F Market Bosworth Leicestershire VIEW VIEW
STATHAM, Sarah 1841 0 F Market Bosworth Leicestershire VIEW VIEW
STATHAM, Thos 1771 70 M Market Bosworth Leicestershire VIEW VIEW
STATHAM, William 1815 26 M Market Bosworth Leicestershire


Vanessa

Vanessa Report 8 Jan 2011 02:51

And the 1841 for John (Amos' father)?? - no obvious connection with Charles:

STATHAM, Ann 1808 33 F Shardlow Leicestershire VIEW VIEW
STATHAM, James 1836 5 M Shardlow Leicestershire VIEW VIEW
STATHAM, Sarah 1801 40 F Shardlow Leicestershire VIEW VIEW

Tiberian

Tiberian Report 9 Jan 2011 23:08

thank you for all of your work on this family it seems as if all of the stathams were related in some way in newbold i wonder what the % of the population was in the village was back then .
i will have a fair bit of updating to do now again thank you all

Tiberian

Tiberian Report 9 Jan 2011 23:12

hi jax was there any info on mary argyle
kind regards

jax

jax Report 10 Jan 2011 01:57

John and Mary's marriage in 1853 I have posted above

1851 census - household transcription
Person: ARGYLE, Mary
Address: Village, Kirkby Mallory



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NORMAN, Charles Head Married M 40 1811 Farmer Of 140 A Employing 2 Lab
Newtown Linford
Leicestershire VIEW
NORMAN, Elizabeth Wife F 40 1811
Osbaston
Leicestershire VIEW
ARGYLE, Mary Servant Unmarried F 19 1832 General Servant
Hunts Lane
Leicestershire VIEW
ARCHER, Arthur Servant Unmarried M 16 1835 Waggoner
Peckleton
Leicestershire VIEW
PRICE, George Servant Unmarried M 20 1831 Cow Man
Kirkby Mallory
Leicestershire VIEW

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1841

Name: Mary Arggll
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1832
Gender: Female
Where born: Leicestershire, England

Civil Parish: Bruntingthorpe
Hundred: Guthlaxton
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England


Registration district: Lutterworth
Sub-registration district: Lutterworth
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Arggll 30
Elizabeth Arggll 30
Mary Arggll 9
James Arggll 7
Joseph Arggll 5
Ann Arggll 3




Tiberian

Tiberian Report 10 Jan 2011 20:50

thank you all again all more than i could have ever expected