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Help Needed With Smith / Cumming

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Gina

Gina Report 11 Jan 2011 14:23

Thanks K for all the info.

K

K Report 11 Jan 2011 13:18

This looks like Kezia in 1901 working for a doctor

Name: Kizen Cumming
Age: 48
Estimated birth year: abt 1853
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Kingston, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Berwick Upon Tweed
Ecclesiastical parish: Berwick upon Tweed Holy Trinity
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Berwick
Sub-registration district: Berwick upon Tweed
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 110
Household Members: Name Age
David F S Cahill 77
Emely Cahill 63
Emily M Cahill 36
Kizen Cumming 48
Ann Burgon 21
Jessie Lindsay 16

And the rest of the family appear to be living seperately as Keziah may not have been home on that night. No head of household is given

Name: Catherine Cumming
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1887
Gender: Female
Where born: Alnwick, Northumberland, England

Civil Parish: Berwick Upon Tweed
Ecclesiastical parish: Berwick upon Tweed St Mary
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street address: 46 Castlegate

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Berwick
Sub-registration district: Berwick upon Tweed
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 38
Household Members: Name Age
Jessie Cumming 19
Gordon Cumming 17
Catherine Cumming 14
Margaret Cumming 13



K

K Report 11 Jan 2011 12:59

I think this could be her in 1911 - listed as a widow following William's death

1911 census - household transcription
Person: CUNNING, Kezie
Address: 28 Lancaster Road South Norwood S E
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WARING, Walter Head Widower M 71 1840 Retired Barrister London St Pancras VIEW
NURTON, Emily Housekeeper Widow F 50 1861 Housekeeper Somerset Spaxton VIEW
CUNNING, Kezie Nurse Widow F 57 1854 Nurse Sick Surrey Kingston on Thames VIEW
GREEN, Matilda Caroline Servant Single F 23 1888 General Servant Domestic Kent Farnborough VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
3385 Reference:
RG14PN3385 RG78PN127 RD39 SD4 ED18 SN29

Registration District:
Croydon Sub District:
North Croydon Enumeration District:
18 Parish:
Croydon

Address:
28 Lancaster Road South Norwood S E County:
Surrey



Deaths Jun 1896 (>99%)
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Cumming William 54 Alnwick 10b 234

K

K Report 11 Jan 2011 12:51

This looks like Keziah in 1871 - The only way to be certain would be to buy the cert. If the marraige is correct and William, remarried following her death then his wife should have been listed as Keziah in 1881 and in 1891 Catherine - but in fact it is the other way round with Catherine in 1881 and Keziah in 1891

Name: Keziah Hogg
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Robert Gibson Hogg
Mother's name: Sarah Jane Hogg
Gender: Female
Where born: Kingston, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Kington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Registration district: Kingston
Sub-registration district: Kingston
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Gibson Hogg 52 Master of Workhouse B Scotland
Sarah Jane Hogg 44
Annie Ellen Hogg 23
Thomas Hogg 17
Keziah Hogg 16
Robert William Hogg 14
Frances Charlie Hogg 12

MarionfromScotland

MarionfromScotland Report 11 Jan 2011 12:33

I hope if they did hear the name wrong they got their ears washed out lol

I'm going back out but I will look in later and see what else I can find.

Marion

Gina

Gina Report 11 Jan 2011 10:46

ok thanks

K

K Report 11 Jan 2011 08:04

I think that William only married once - his wife Catherine/Keziah is given the same age and same birth place in the different census years. The enumerator may have misheard the name Keziah

Kay

MarionfromScotland

MarionfromScotland Report 10 Jan 2011 20:47

The census I looked at are for William Cummings1843 (The vet) with his mother Janet**

Have edited this.

Gina

Gina Report 10 Jan 2011 18:52

Does this mean that William married twice? Catherine and Kesiah? Confusing!!!

MarionfromScotland

MarionfromScotland Report 10 Jan 2011 17:07

I was thinking Bethia might have been Kezia...but maybe not then.

K

K Report 10 Jan 2011 16:59

Possible marriage

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1874 (>99%)
CUMMING William Kingston 2a 424
Hogg Kezia Kingston 2a 424
James Harriett Helen Kingston 2a 424
Nicholes Frederick Kingston 2a 424

MarionfromScotland

MarionfromScotland Report 10 Jan 2011 16:46

1871 Scotland Census
about William Cumming
Name: William Cumming
Age: 28
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Relationship: Son
Mother's name: Janet Cumming
Gender: Male
Where born: Loanhead, Edinburgh
Registration Number: 685/1
Registration district: St George
Civil Parish: Edinburgh St Cuthberts
County: Midlothian
Address: 81 Lothian Road
Occupation: Setering Surgenr
ED: 34
Household schedule number: 154
Line: 4
Roll: CSSCT1871_156
Household Members:
Name Age
Janet Cumming 52
William Cumming 28
Robert Cumming 26
Jessie Cumming 17
Thomas Edwards 52
Thomas Andson 31
Annie Templeton

MarionfromScotland

MarionfromScotland Report 10 Jan 2011 16:34

????

Search Results | Download | Print

WILLIAM CUMINGS Pedigree
Male Family

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:

Marriages:
Spouse: BETHIA MCQUARRIE Family
Marriage:
08 FEB 1861 Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland

Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

Gina

Gina Report 10 Jan 2011 16:23

Many thanks. That has given me some more people to look for.

gina

K

K Report 10 Jan 2011 16:20

1881

Name: William Cummings
Age: 38
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Catherine Cummings
Mother's name: Janet Cummings
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland

Civil Parish: Alnwick
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street address: Paikes St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

View image
Occupation: Veternary Surgeon

Registration district: Alnwick
Sub-registration district: Alnwick
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William Cummings 38
Catherine Cummings 26 bKingston
William R. Cummings 3
Eliza Cummings 2
Janet Cummings 60 Mother b Scotland

K

K Report 10 Jan 2011 16:14

1911?

MILES, Walter Head Married M 36 1875 Plumber Croydon VIEW
MILES, Florence Wife Married
13 years F 34 1877 Hackney VIEW
MILES, Florence Daughter School F 12 1899 School Norwood VIEW
MILES, Beatrice Daughter F 8 1903 Thornton Heath VIEW
MILES, Ethel Daughter F 4 1907 Norwood VIEW
MILES, John Son M 1 1910 Norwood VIEW
CUMMINGS, Katherine Visitor Single F 24 1887 Drapery Assistant Alnwick VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
3382 Reference:
RG14PN3382 RG78PN127 RD39 SD4 ED15 SN200

Registration District:
Croydon Sub District:
North Croydon Enumeration District:
15 Parish:
Croydon

Address:
120 Holmesdale Road South Norwood County:
Surrey

K

K Report 10 Jan 2011 16:10

1891

Name: William Cumming
Age: 48
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Keziah Cumming
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland

Civil Parish: Alnwick
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
Town: Alnwick
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image

Registration district: Alnwick
Sub-registration district: Alnwick
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William Cumming 48 veterinary surgeon
Keziah Cumming 36 bKingston On Thames
William R Cumming 13
Eliza Cumming 12
Jessie Cumming 9
Gerdon Cumming 7
Chatharine Cumming 4 b alnwick, Northumberland
Margaret Cumming 3

Gina

Gina Report 10 Jan 2011 15:31

I have a marriage for William Smith age 33 fitters mate to Catherine Cumming age 36 on the 16th December 1922. Before they married they had two children Celia Katherine 1919 and Joan in 1921, both births registered London as was their marriage. On the marriage cert the fathers are down as Charles Smith retired council laborer and William Robert Cumming deseased a veterinary surgeon. I have tried looking on census' but as yet have had no luck. A fresh set of eyes might help. I would be grateful for any help.

gina