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Salimali
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17 Jan 2011 17:37 |
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Digging through old l papers I have found Ann's obituary in 1931. Shows that she had nine grown up children to mourn her. Thomas in Australia, Griffith away at sea.her daughters Laura, Annie, Nellie, Jane, Hannah, Maggie(in California ) and Lizzie. She was still living at 6 Chapel Terrace, Criccieth.
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17 Jan 2011 11:21 |
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1911 census - household transcription Person: JONES, Robert Address: 6 Chapel Terrace Criccieth JONES, Robert Penteulu Priod M 62 1849 Morwr (Mariner) Criccieth Carnarvon JONES, Anne Gwraig Priod F 61 1850 Penmorfa Carnarvon RG number: RG14 Piece: 34360 Reference: RG14PN34360 RG78PN1985 RD629 SD1 ED4 SN158 Registration District: Pwllheli Sub District: Criccieth Enumeration District: 4 Parish:Criccieth
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Cathy
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17 Jan 2011 10:42 |
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Hi, can you tell us which records you think are right please?
Patchem and MaureeninNY have Robert's family in 1881,1891,1901 which certainly look like the right family don't you think?
I have put the 1851, 1861 and 1871 together now which hopefully will be less confusing? I think it could possibly be Robert .....there are a few names the same Laura, Thomas and Griffith but it's very difficult with the surname Jones..... I've got a few in my family, they're a nightmare to find!
Kind regards,
Cathy
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Salimali
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16 Jan 2011 22:31 |
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I know that Maggie/Margaret emigrated to America, any suggesstions on following that "red herring".
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Salimali
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16 Jan 2011 00:27 |
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Apologies for being slow to reply but was called away from computer. Many thanks to all for all this information. I know that I am in the right place as I still remember sevral of my great aunts.
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15 Jan 2011 23:30 |
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If we put together the children from 1881, 1891 and 1901 that we might have found, and ignoring the claim that he was a labourer in 1901, we get: 1881 JONES, Laura Daughter Single F 6 1875 JONES, Thomas Son Single M 4 1877 JONES, Ellin Daughter Single F 2 1879 1891 Ellen Jones 12 1879 Ann Hughes Jones 10 1881 Jane Hughes Jones 8 1883 Hannah Jones 6 1885 Griffith Jones 4 1887 Margaret Jones 4 1887 Elizabeth Jones 2 1889 1901 Hannah Jones 16 1885 Griffith Jones 14 1887 Maggie Jones 14 1887 Lizzie Jones 11 1890 Which gives us 9 children, and some could have been born and died between censuses and so not show up.
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patchem
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15 Jan 2011 23:22 |
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If you get the birth certificate of one of the children, it will have the Mother's maiden name.
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15 Jan 2011 23:07 |
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The 1911 census says they have been married 39 years, i.e. 1871/2, and 12 children born, 9 living.
This Robert Jones is a general labourer, not a sailor. have I picked the wrong one: 1901 Wales Census Robert Jones Age in 1901: 52 Estimated birth year: abt 1849 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Anne Jones Gender: Male Where born: Criccieth, Caernarvonshire, Wales Civil Parish: Criccieth Ecclesiastical parish: Criccieth County/Island: Caernarvonshire Country: Wales Registration district: Pwllhelli Sub-registration district: Criccieth ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Household schedule number: 182
Robert Jones 52 Anne Jones 51 Hannah Jones 16 Griffith Jones 14 Maggie Jones 14 Lizzie Jones 11
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 5263; Folio: 18; Page: 27.
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15 Jan 2011 22:58 |
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Not a clue!!! 1881 census transcription details for: Railway Terrace, Criccieth National Archive Reference: RG number: RG11 Piece: 5555 Folio: 7 Page: 7 Reg. District: Pwllheli Sub District: Criccieth Parish: Criccieth Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: Railway Terrace, Criccieth County: Caernarvonshire JONES, Ann Head Married F 31 1850 Sailors Wife Penbryn Caernarvonshire Wales JONES, Laura Daughter Single F 6 1875 Scholar Criccieth Caernarvonshir Wales JONES, Thomas Son Single M 4 1877 Scholar Criccieth Caernarvonshire Wales JONES, Ellin Daughter Single F 2 1879 Criccieth Caernarvonshire Wales
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patchem
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15 Jan 2011 22:44 |
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No, looks like Jones: Births Jun 1881 JONES Ann Hughes Pwllheli 11b 477
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15 Jan 2011 22:42 |
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Just for background, ancestry has her married to the next door neighbour, so I have deleted incorrect informatiom, leaving: 1891 Wales Census Ann Jones Age: 41 Estimated birth year: abt 1850 Relation: Wife Gender: Female Where born: Penmorfa, Caernarvonshire, Wales Civil Parish: Criccieth Ecclesiastical parish: Criccieth Town: Criccieth County/Island: Caernarvonshire Country: Wales Registration district: Pwllheli Sub-registration district: Criccieth ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Ellen Jones 12 Ann Hughes Jones 10 Jane Hughes Jones 8 Hannah Jones 6 Griffith Jones 4 Margaret Jones 4 Elizabeth Jones 2
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 4650; Folio 18; Page 3; GSU roll: 6099760.
Possibly Ann and Ellen were from an earlier relationship?
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patchem
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15 Jan 2011 22:31 |
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Were they all at sea in 1881? Depends on type of sailor if wife and family with them, and may be registered in different area of the country.
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Cathy
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15 Jan 2011 22:22 |
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1851 census - household transcription Person: JONES, Robert Address: 3, Chapel Row, Criccieth
ROBERTS, John Head Widower M 70 1781 Stone Mason Llanfihengaly Pennant Carnarvonshire JONES, Thomas Son Married M 37 1814 Seaman Criccieth Carnarvonshire JONES, Laura Daughter-In-Law Married F 36 1815 Seaman Wife Pwllheli Carnarvonshire JONES, John Grand Son M 10 1841 Scholar Pwllheli Carnarvonshire JONES, William Grand Son M 5 1846 Scholar Criccieth Carnarvonshire JONES, Robert Grand Son M 2 1849 Criccieth Carnarvonshire RG number: HO107 Piece: 2513 Folio: 13 Page: 19 Registration District: Pwllheli Sub District: Criccieth Enumeration District: 1A Civil Parish: Criccieth Municipal Borough: Criccieth --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1861 census - household transcription Person: JONES, Robert Address: 3, Chapel Row, Criccieth
JONES, Laura Head Widow F 44 1817 Laundress Abererch Caernarvonshire JONES, Robert Son M 12 1849 Scholar Criccieth Caernarvonshire JONES, Griffith Son M 10 1851 Scholar Criccieth Caernarvonshire
RG number: RG09 Piece: 4328 Folio: 11 Page: 15 Registration District: Pwllheli Sub District:1 Criccieth Enumeration District: 1 Civil Parish: Criccieth --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1871 census - address transcription Address: Chapel Row, Criccieth
JONES, Laura Head F 56 1815 Caernarvonshire JONES, William Son M 25 1846 Caernarvonshire DAVIES, Ann Niece F 35 1836 Caernarvonshire
RG number: RG10 Piece: 5702 Folio: 18 Page: 5 Registration District: Pwllheli Sub District: Criccieth Enumeration District: 2 Civil Parish: Criccieth
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Salimali
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15 Jan 2011 21:51 |
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Wrong Robert, he was a sailor as was his father, I think that his father was Thomas Ellen was born in Criccieth.
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15 Jan 2011 21:48 |
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Is this Robert ?
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Household:1881
Margaret JONES Head W Female 59 Criccieth, Caernarvon, Wales Town ? Cook Robert JONES Son U Male 33 Criccieth, Caernarvon, Wales Plasterer
Dwelling 3 Square Census Place Criccieth, Caernarvon, Wales
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Salimali
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15 Jan 2011 21:41 |
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I think that her maiden name was Griffith(s) Will try that now.
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15 Jan 2011 21:39 |
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When did they marry?. She might be under her maiden name
Where was Ellen born ?
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Salimali
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15 Jan 2011 21:36 |
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Trying to find Anne Jones wife of Robert Jones. Anne is shown on 1911 cenus as born Penmorfa Carnarvon aged 61, so I have used het year of birth as 1850 (+/- 1) Robert Jones is shown as born in Criccieth aged 62, used 1849 (+/-1) as his birth year. I had no problem finding them in 1901 and 1891 census, exept that Robert Jones is not on the 1891 census but since he was a sailor, I assume that he was at sea. Further back and I have drawn a blank. I have even tried with their daughter Ellen aged 12 in 1891 used birth year 1879 (+/-1) for her birth year. What am I doing wrong
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