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Well, it is something I need to consider, but I'm not giving up yet until I can proove anything.

I will see what new info we can come up with. Try and confirm any full name if Ernest was the name he went by - or not. Just to see if we can rule out the earlier marriage found.

These American service men were terrible liars! There it is, I have to be blunt! but I have managed to discover that two other american service men who fathered british babies and one was already married with children, the other gave false home address and cannot be traced! If I know 3 people it happened to, how many more did the same thing! They must have been real charmers!

Once I can find out some more information from my friends family, I can get back to this thread and see if we can do some more digging.

Thanks everyone for helping, I hope you won't mind me coming back to you at a later date.
Best wishes
Dee

You know, Julie, I wondered if this was a similar story. I was suspicious about the fact that there's no death on Commomwealth War Graves that match nor on the Canadian version, Virtual War Memorial..

This is practically a mirror image of my aunts story. She was engaged to someone in the air force during ww2. Told that he had died although my nan always had the suspicion that it wasn't true as my aunt knew nothing of his family and he never spoke about them.. Aunt went on to marry another airman a few years later.
Out of the blue in 1997 my mother received a phone call from someone who had tracked her down through the phonebook. Yes, it was my aunts 'dead fiance'. He must have been carrying around a burden of guilt all those years.He'd got a mate to visit my aunt to say he'd died . Truth was he was already married with a nine year old son when he got engaged to my aunt. My poor aunt was stunned but did meet him in the company of my mother when he owned up to what he had done. He died not long after.

Yes, i think you are MadBull
His surname definately was Pillotte. Lol.

Would she be allowed to name him on the birth certificate if he wasn't present and she wasn't married to him?

I've been wondering about that last name Pilotte. It's just that the french word for pilot is pilote, pronounced pilotte. Or am I clutching at straws now?

Do you know what? I wouldn't be suprised if I find out that Ernest was a middle name! It has been known for people to go by their middle names before, and it might be why we are drawing a blank!

The other thing which has been bugging me. Why, if the father was known, was his name not put on the birth cert of his daughter? I'm sure he wasn't married as the couple had plans to get married - he was coming home to her! If she loved him, why didn't she name him on the birth cert? It can't be because she wasn't married, surely not?

I think I may have to wait and see if we can obtain any further information on him. But I am not sure when that will be as we have to tread carefully as not to upset my friends grandmother.

Sorry Ginny,
All I know is that he was french canadian in WW2 and that he died sometime between June 1941 and before his daughter's birth in Feb 1942.
The Ernest you mention above cannot be him as he died in 1983.

U.S. Naturalization Records Indexes, 1794-1995
about Ernest Edmund Pilotte Name: Ernest Edmund Pilotte
Age: 37
Birth Date: 12 Jan 1902
Issue Date: 20 Nov 1939
State: Massachusetts
Locality, Court: District of Masssachusetts, District Court



Massachusetts Death Index, 1970-2003
about Ernest E Pilotte Name: Ernest E Pilotte
Certificate: 000623
Death Place: Boston
Death Date: 24 Jan 1983
Birth Place: Canada
Birth Date: 12 Jan 1902



Im not sure how we can help without further info? Whats the US connection please or have I lost the plot!

Just been going over my notes and I have written that he died "over the chanel" which could suggest air force.

I was looking at bases in Somerset/Berkshire and came across a reference to a Charmy Down airfield in Berkshire. In November 1941 No 417 squadon RCAF was being formed there. I wonder if he had anything to do with this. I'm not sure how or if it is worth taking a look at? They refer to test piloting.

Could he have been one of the test pilots "caught in friendly fire" which has been suggested by the family.

Does anyone know if any records of the pilots exsist?

The date of that marriage of J.N.A.Ernest Pilotte was le ving-deux fevrier, mil neuf cents quarante et un. ( 22 Feb. 1941)
Incidentally his full name was Joseph Napoleon Alexandre Ernest.

oooops! wishful thinking - getting frustrated now!

Yep, clutching at straws, that Enis was female!

I'm sorry Ginny, you have all I know. Which I realise is very little unless we can entice her into giving us some more. I only wish I knew if he was in RCAF and which squadron, where he was coming from when he was crossing the chanel. If only we could access military records. Where would his death be recorded? Lots of questions, but no answers:(

mmmn interesting. This looks a possibility. I wonder if some tales have been told and she is trying to conceal that he was married.

Or....of course, this is not him.

Are you able to look at the United States Obituary collection. I noticed an Enis Pilotti listed but I cannot view them. Enis could have been mistaken for Ernest when she was talking about him, or am I just clutching at straws here?

OK.....heres another stab in the dark!


Quebec Vital and Church Records (Drouin Collection), 1621-1967
about J N A Ernest Pilotte Name: J N A Ernest Pilotte
Event Year: 1917
Event: Naissance (Birth)
Religion: Catholique
Place of Worship or Institution: Montréal (St-Pierre-Claver)
Province: Québec (Quebec)


But this guy married


Quebec Vital and Church Records (Drouin Collection), 1621-1967
about J N A Ernest Pilotte Name: J N A Ernest Pilotte
[J N A Emest Pilotte]
Spouse: M C C Gisele Beauvais
Event Year: 1941
Event: Mariage (Marriage)
Religion: Catholique
Place of Worship or Institution: Montréal (St-Denis)
Province: Québec (Quebec)





Do you have any other info on him or his family?

Ginny, I don't think this is who I am looking for, we are pretty certain that his name was spelt Pillotte/Pilotte/Pillotti/Pilotte

Quebec Vital and Church Records (Drouin Collection), 1621-1967
about Charles Pouliot Name: Charles Pouliot
Spouse: Alma Otis
Event Year: 1908
Event: Mariage (Marriage)
Religion: Catholique
Place of Worship or Institution: St-Moïse
Province: Québec (Quebec)


Parents of the above

Dee

I dont have time to read this at the moment but it might kick start the hunt


Quebec Vital and Church Records (Drouin Collection), 1621-1967
about Ernest Pouliot Name: Ernest Pouliot
Event Year: 1920
Event: Naissance (Birth)
Religion: Catholique
Place of Worship or Institution: St-Moïse
Province: Québec (Quebec)

Father Charles Pouliot Mother Alma Otis