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Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 30 Jan 2011 11:07

Having spoken to my sister-in-law yesterday, we are now thinking that the French/Canadian artist rumoured to be their grandad could possibly be their great grandad. The name Clayton was very rare in England in the 1800's, and I thought he would be easy to find... how wrong was I. I now need to find out how to try and trace it via Canadian records maybe?

cheers
jackie

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 30 Jan 2011 00:02

Thanks, I am going to Lincoln in a few weeks, and together with my sister-in-law we are going to spend a day in the archive centre there.... much cheaper to drive up there than the phone calls and cost of certificates etc lol xxxx

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 29 Jan 2011 23:42

To check out the occupants you would have to look at the electoral register - normally held at nearest main library. It would only show men over 21 and women over 30 though.
Jan

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 29 Jan 2011 23:33

Thank you all, on the marriage certificate harry and martha were living at 21a waterside south, lincoln. Not sure how to find out whether the family lived there or not. Martha was still living there when Harry died in 1930, although he died in a workhouse hospital nearby of a stroke, martha was 22 and had a 2 year old son, which in the depression of 1930 muct have been very tough indeed.. maybe thats why she made Harry's life a misery; because his dad died and left her to cope... who knows... i will keep digging xxx

JustDinosaurJill

JustDinosaurJill Report 29 Jan 2011 23:03

Who were the witnesses on the marriage cert. I have noticed that on many marriage certs for my lot, the witnesses are often kin. You could try searching for the witness names and look for connections.

Jill

Andrew

Andrew Report 29 Jan 2011 22:56

Thjis is the record. No informats name

Vermont Death Records, 1909-2008
about Clayton A. Silver
Name: Clayton A. Silver
Gender: Male
Birth Location: VT
Death Date: 30 Mar 1910
Death Location: Burlington, Chittenden
Cause of Death: CHronic Pulmonary Tuberculosis
Residence: Burlington, VT
Mother's Maiden Name: Whalen
Mother's name: Mary E.
Father's name: Albert Meacham
Vital Event Type: Certificate of Death

Andy

tempest

tempest Report 29 Jan 2011 22:50

just been looking through ancestry, there are a few Clayton Silvers listed so I may have the wrong one sorry

however there is a death in 1910 in Vermont for a Clayton A Silver

I don't have worldwide ancestry sorry so I cannot view it, maybe someone else can oblige

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 29 Jan 2011 22:48

Have you checked out Harry's address on his marriage cert on the off-chance he is living with his family?
jan

Andrew

Andrew Report 29 Jan 2011 22:44

I hope this isn't a wildgoose chase!

1911 Canada

1911 Census of Canada
about Harlen Silner
Name: Harlen Silner
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Age: 15
Birth Date: Jul 1895
Birthplace: Nova Scotia
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father's name: Clayton Silner
Mother's name: Helena Silner
Tribal: Dutch
Province: Nova Scotia
District: Guysborough
District Number: 44
Sub-District Number: 10
Place of Habitation: Goldboro
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Clayton Silner 38
Helena Silner 30
Bertie M Silner 3
Preston Silner 2
Wennie Silner 2/12
Harlen Silner 15
Beatrice Druce 18


Andy

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 29 Jan 2011 22:40

tempest.. thanks, is there any way to track clayton's life to see if he came to england??

JustDinosaurJill

JustDinosaurJill Report 29 Jan 2011 22:40

Just to say I've been through FreeBMD All events Mar 1860 to Dec 1950 for all named Clayton, all areas and got nowhere. I've looked for surnames that could have vaguely matched phonetically but nothing.

Is there a chance that Clayton returned to Canada?

Hope you find him.

Jill

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 29 Jan 2011 22:35

There is an Ancestry tree with theCanadian family, but it seems Harles is Charles, at least according to them! Another has the Vermont Clayton.
jan

tempest

tempest Report 29 Jan 2011 22:30

1880 United States Federal Census
about Clayton Silver Name: Clayton Silver
Home in 1880: Craftsbury, Orleans, Vermont
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Birthplace: Vermont
Relation to Head of Household: Son
Father's name: Boutwell N. Silver
Father's birthplace: Vermont
Mother's name: Mary E. Silver
Mother's birthplace: Vermont
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Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Male
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Household Members: Name Age
Boutwell N. Silver 44
Mary E. Silver 25
Tim W. Silver 16
James Silver 13
Harly Silver 10
Clayton Silver 8
Mamie Silver 4
Minnie Silver 1
Agnes Silver 84


Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 29 Jan 2011 22:21

Thats really strange, as my husbands family were lead to believe (possibly by their father) that his father was a Canadian/French artist. This is family folklore.... how would I research if this family came to England? If Clayton was a blacksmith in 1927, and still living, there must be records of him somewhere. This is becoming quite an obcession as my husbands faher knew nothing about his dad, as he died when he was 2, and he had a very difficult relationship with his mother Martha. The research I am doing is helping my husbands family piece together why their father never talked about his dad, they didnt know he had died young until i started researching. many thanks for you help, i do appreciate it x

Andrew

Andrew Report 29 Jan 2011 22:07

Do you know where and when Harry was born?

Found this record.....sort of fits....Age is 4 years out and fathers occupation wrong.

Canada, Soldiers of the First World War, 1914-1918
about Harlis Silver
Name: Harlis Silver
Birth Date: 17 Jul 1895
Birth Location: Isaaes Harbor, Guysboro Co
Relative: Clayton Silver
Regiment Number: 68182

Canadian Census

1901 Census of Canada
about Clayton Silver
Name: Clayton Silver
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 28
Birth Day & Month: 20 Mar
Birth Year: 1873
Birthplace: Ns
Relation to Head of House: Head
Racial or Tribal Origin: German
Nationality: Canadian
Religion: Baptist
Occupation: Fisherman
Province: Nova Scotia
District: Guysborough
District Number: 32
Sub-District: Isaac Harbour
Sub-District Number: J-1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
>>Clayton Silver 28
Jane Silver 24
>>Harles Silver 5
Minnie Silver 3
Daisey Silver 1

Harles could be Harry??





Andy

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 29 Jan 2011 22:04

No I cant find that either. He was 28 on the marriage cert, marriage 4/12/1927.

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 29 Jan 2011 22:01

What was Harry's age at marriage please, have you found his birth cert ?

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 29 Jan 2011 21:55

I am looking for any details at all about CLAYTON SILVER. He was my husband's G. Grandfather, and is named on the marriage certificate of his son, Harry Silver to Martha Brown on 4th December 1927, but I can't find any other records for him at all... According to the marriage certificate, he was a blacksmith and still alive in 1927. Harry lived in Lincoln, as did Martha so assume Clayton would have been in that area, but i have drawn a total blank.. help.... many thanks

Jackie