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Thanks to every one I have almost every one through parish recordsBut Grt Grn dad a mystery Marriage cert is Frederic William ALLEN Father Frederic 1851 says he was born Newbury Berks no record all other cencus says born Southampton each cencus changes his nane William allen Fr wm Allen even FrankAllen Nothing prior to 1851 cencus signed wifes death cert X mark of died in Southampton poor house Regards Alan

they're not at 12 Elm Street in 1911

Address: 12 Elm ST

MANSBRIDGE, Edward Head Married M 25 1886 Ship's Fireman Southampton
MANSBRIDGE, Sarah Wife Married 7 years F 26 1885 Wiltshire
MANSBRIDGE, Thomas Son M 6 1905 Southampton
MANSBRIDGE, George Son M 4 1907 Southampton
MANSBRIDGE, Ellen Daughter F 2 1909 Southampton
MANSBRIDGE, Frederick Son M 0 1911 Southampton

and

1911 census Address: 12 Elm Street Southampton

BAKER, Thomas Head M M 40 1871 Loco Driver Exeter Wiltshire
BAKER, Harriett Wife M 16 years F 38 1873 Southampton Hants
BAKER, Lilian Daughter Single F 15 1896 Southampton Hants
BAKER, Violet Daughter Single F 11 1900 Sholing Hand
BAKER, Bessie Daughter Single F 1 1910 Southampton Hts
PRESTON, William Boarder Widower M 69 1842 Carpenter Ships Southampton Hts
HOUGHTON, William Boarder Married M 39 1872 Horse Driver Southampton Hts

This looks like Harriet here but husband's name is George Martin not Henry Massom!

1881 census
14 Queen St., Southampton
George Nineham, head, 58?, bricklayer
Elizabeth, wife, 51
Harriet Martin, dau, married, 20
George Martin, son-in-law, 22, fireman seaman
Alferd Nineham, son, 16, boiler something? (out of work)
Annie, dau, 10
George H., son, 2
Sarah Fackam, dau, widow, 30, washerwoman
Emmie Nineham, dau, 30, servant (out of work)
Plus a lodger.
All born Southampton except wife Elizabeth born Millbrook.

Person: ALLEN, George
Institution: Workhouse And Schools Of The Southampton Union, SOUTHAMPTON WORKHOUSE AND SCHOOLS


ALLEN, George Inmate M 8 1903 Scholar Unknown
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
5987 Reference:
RG14PN5987 RD99 SD1 ED54 SN9999

Registration District:
Southampton Sub District:
Southampton Eastern Enumeration District:
54 Parish:
St Mary

Address:
St Mary Street Southampton

Name is Massom here for Sarah's parents' marriage:

Marriages Sep 1876 (>99%)
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MASSOM Henry Southampton 2c 63
Nineham Harriet Southampton 2c 63

Person: ALLEN, Emily
Institution: Southampton Union Infirmary, SOUTHAMPTON UNION INFIRMARY


ALLEN, Emily Inmate F 2 1909 Hants Southampton

RG number:
RG14 Piece:
6021 Reference:
RG14PN6021 RD99 SD2 ED33 SN9999

Registration District:
Southampton Sub District:
Southampton Western Enumeration District:
33 Parish:
Southampton

Address:
Chilworth Road Shirley Warren

1891 census
7 Cushend Court, Southampton
Henry Massom, head, 39, dock labourer
Harriet, wife, 32
George, son, 10
Sarah, dau.8
Emily, dau, 6
Elizabeth, dau, 4
William, son, 2
Ellen M., dau, 1
All born Southampton.

Can't see rest of them 1911 - could anyone try an address search for 12 Elm Street, St Mary on FMP?

1911 census - household transcription
Person: ALEN, Henry
Institution: H M Prison, H.M. PRISON

Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

ALEN, Henry Prisoner Married M 29 1882 Mariner Hants Southampton

RG number: RG14
Piece: 6129
Reference: RG14PN6129 RD103 SD2 ED19 SN9999
Registration District: Winchester
Sub District: Winchester
Enumeration District: 19
Parish: Winchester

Address:Romsey Road Winchester
County: Hampshire

1911 census - household transcription
Person: ALLEN, Sarah
Institution: H M Prison, H.M. PRISON

Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

ALLEN, Sarah Prisoner Married F 28 1883 Dairy Work Hant Southampton

RG number: RG14
Piece: 6129
Reference: RG14PN6129 RD103 SD2 ED19 SN9999
Registration District: Winchester
Sub District: Winchester
Enumeration District: 19
Parish: Winchester

Address: Romsey Road Winchester
County: Hampshire

1901 census
No. 1 Lanny's? Passage, Southampton
Henry Allen, head, 20, able seaman
Sarah, wife, 19
Henry, son, 2 months
All born Southampton.

1901 census taken 31 March so son Henry born end January or beginning February.

Can't find the family in the 1911 at the moment - but have found this

ALEN, Henry Prisoner Married M 29 1882 Mariner Hants Southampton

RG number:
RG14 Piece:
6129 Reference:
RG14PN6129 RD103 SD2 ED19 SN9999

Registration District:
Winchester Sub District:
Winchester Enumeration District:
19 Parish:
Winchester

Address:
Romsey Road Winchester

1901 census - household transcription

Address: 1, Lenny's Passage, Southampton St Michael, Southampton

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born

ALLEN, Henry Head Married M 20 1881 Able Seaman Southampton
ALLEN, Sarah Wife Married F 19 1882 Southampton
ALLEN, Henry Son M 0 (2 MOS) 1901 Southampton

Sarah Jane Mason

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
residence: Southampton, Hampshire, England
parents: John Mason, Elizabeth

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Sarah Jane Mason
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 16 Jan 1870
baptism/christening place: St Mary's, Southampton, Hampshire, England
father's name: John Mason
mother's name: Elizabeth
indexing project (batch) number: I03875-2
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1041726

Another one with yet another spelling of mother's maiden name. There are many more Allen birth in Southampton but before 1911 mother's maiden name was not given so no way of telling which ones are yours.

Births Dec 1912 (>99%)
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Allen William Messum Southampton 2c 112

Other children with mother's maiden name Masson:


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Births Sep 1914 (>99%)
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ALLEN Harry Masson Southampton 2c 66

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Births Mar 1917 (>99%)
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Allen Sarah Masson Southampton 2c 20

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Births Sep 1918 (>99%)
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Allen Alice M Masson Southampton 2c 56

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Births Sep 1920 (>99%)
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Allen Albert Masson Southampton 2c 12

Birth of son Fred, giving mother's maiden name Massom:

Births Mar 1916 (>99%)
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Allen Frederick Massom Southampton 2c 51

Seems to be some confusion re: her surname:

Marriages Jun 1900 (>99%)
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Allen Henry Southampton 2c 21
Massem Sarah Jane Southampton 2c 21
Massom Sarah Jane Southampton 2c 21

please can any one help,sarah married henry allen in 1900. they had 16 children may be more,most from southampton.hants. the fist child born henry allenb 1901.died 16/4/ , george born1902. my mother was emily allen born 1904 in southampton gen sp,henry born 21/3/1906 died26/3/1906. 10 tower place, elizabeth born 14/2/1907.tower place. william born 3/11/09 b 12 elm street sothampton.he married pepist marys.. harriet allen born elm str , harry born q3/1914 in soton,he married,. fred allen born q1/ 1916. sarah born 1/`7/1917. died 17/91917 . 35,belvedere terrese. alice b 3q/1918. sb 16/7/19 35 belverdere terr. albert born 3q/1920. was in the navy,. lucy e q2/`1922. she married wally sivier, ivy born 3q1925.there are some s b,as far as we know all were born in southampton hants,i would be very greatful for any info you may have. i was allways told there were 22 chidren, and elleven servived, thank you any help will be greatfully received, alan.