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doreen
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4 Mar 2011 18:42 |
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Thanks everyone for all your help.
Have managed to find a Washington family tree on Ancestry because of the help you gave me.
Have asked the poster if he thinks I am on the right track and awaiting a reply. Thanks again Doreen
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Potty
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3 Mar 2011 11:01 |
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This looks like the marriage of Thomas's parents. Still no sign of Washington:
HENRY KIDMAN Pedigree Marriages: Spouse: ANN COOK Family Marriage: 19 NOV 1827 Saint Dunstan, Stepney, London, England
There are a lot of births and baptisms on familysearch at St Dunstans for children of Henry and Ann, including Thomas's - his seems to be the only one that is submitted but it looks authentic.
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Lynne From Up North !!
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2 Mar 2011 17:16 |
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Looks as though it could be Thomas's first wife:
Marriages Jun 1864 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Gray Eliza W. Ham 4a 3 Hillman Henry W. Ham 4a 3 >>> Kidman Thomas W. Ham 4a 3 Willoughby Jane W. Ham 4a 3
1871 census Name: Thomas Kidman Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Eliza Kidman Gender: Male Where born: Stepney, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Hornsey Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthias County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Registration district: Edmonton Sub-registration district: Hornsey ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Household schedule number: 373 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Kidman 28 Eliza Kidman 28 Rose E Kidman 5 Bertha J Kidman 3 Edith E Kidman 2 Ernest A Kidman 8 Months Eliza Godfrey 15 Still no sign of the Washington name!!
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Lynne From Up North !!
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2 Mar 2011 17:05 |
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Managed to find Thomas Kidman born c1844 during the 1861 census with his parents Henry and Ann, just need to find him now in the 1871 census to see if he was with his first wife!!
Name: Thomas Kidman Age: 17 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844 Relation: Son Father's Name: Henry Kidman Mother's Name: Ann Kidman Gender: Male Where born: Stepney, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Stepney County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Mile End Old Town Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town Eastern ED, institution, or vessel: 29 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 177 Household Members: Name Age Henry Kidman 59 Ann Kidman 50 Thomas Kidman 17 Henrietta Kidman 13 Ann Kidman 10 Louisa Kidman 6
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2 Mar 2011 16:45 |
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Looks like Thomas had been married before:
1881 England Census about Thomas Kidman Name: Thomas Kidman Age: 37 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844 Relation: Head Mother's Name: Ann Kidman Gender: Male Where born: Stepney, Middlesex, England Civil parish: So Hornsey County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address: 16 Arthur Road Condition as to marriage: Widow Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Manager Tobacco Makers Registration district: Edmonton Sub-registration district: Hornsey ED, institution, or vessel: 9c Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Thomas Kidman 37 widower Ann Kidman 70 Rose Kidman 15 Edith Kidman 13 Bertha Kidman 11 Ernest Kidman 9 Albert Kidman 6
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Lynne From Up North !!
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2 Mar 2011 16:42 |
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1901 census for Albert Rickwood, with parents and siblings:-
Name: Albert Rickwood Age: 13 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888 Relation: Son Father's Name: James Rickwood Mother's Name: Elizabeth Rickwood Gender: Male Where born: Hackney, London, England Civil parish: Hackney Ecclesiastical parish: St John of Jerusalem South Hackney County/Island: London Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Hackney Sub-registration district: South-East Hackney ED, institution, or vessel: 19 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 202 Household Members: Name Age James Rickwood 53 Elizabeth Rickwood 52 Emma Rickwood 28 Thomas Rickwood 25 Frederick Rickwood 23 Mabel Rickwood 21 Lydia Rickwood 18 Ellen Rickwood 15 Albert Rickwood 13
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2 Mar 2011 16:42 |
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Was hoping that Harold's MMN would be Washington but afraid not as this looks like his parents' marriage:
Marriages Jun 1884 (>99%)
Brown James Hackney 1b 718 Kidman Thomas Hackney 1b 718 Rogers Mary Hackney 1b 718 SALMON Frances Louisa Hackney 1b 718
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2 Mar 2011 16:39 |
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1911 census - household transcription Person: RICHWOOD, Albert Victor Address: 66 Tynemouth Road Tottenham
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RICHWOOD, James Head Married M 64 1847 Coach Painter Bury St Edmunds Suffolk VIEW RICHWOOD, Elizabeth Wife Married 43 years F 63 1848 London Clerkenwell VIEW RICHWOOD, Albert Victor Son Single M 23 1888 Salesman London South Hackney VIEW RICHWOOD, Emma Daughter Single F 38 1873 Assistant London Dalston VIEW RICHWOOD, Lydia Victoria Daughter Single F 28 1883 Assistant London Dalston VIEW RICHWOOD, Ruth Ellen Jessie Daughter Single F 25 1886 Assistant London South Hackney VIEW
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2 Mar 2011 16:39 |
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Birth reg for the Harold W in the 1901:
Births Sep 1885 (>99%) Kidman Harold Washington Hackney 1b 534
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Lynne From Up North !!
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2 Mar 2011 16:38 |
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Possible birth for Albert V Rickwood:
Births Mar 1888 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RICKWOOD Albert Victor Hackney 1b 598
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2 Mar 2011 16:38 |
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Births Mar 1888 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RICKWOOD Albert Victor Hackney 1b 598
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2 Mar 2011 16:34 |
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1911 census - household transcription Person: KIDMAN, Ruby Grace Address: 68 Tynemouth Road Tottenham
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- KIDMAN, Thomas Head Widower M 67 1844 Retired Tobacconist Stepney London VIEW KIDMAN, Florence Maud Daughter Single F 23 1888 Dalston London VIEW KIDMAN, Stanley Thomas Son Single M 22 1889 Assistant Salesman Dalston London VIEW KIDMAN, Ruby Grace Daughter Single F 19 1892 Machinist Dalston London VIEW KIDMAN, Ada Madaline Daughter Single F 17 1894 Machinist Dalston London VIEW KIDMAN, Kate Daughter Single F 15 1896 Assistant Dalston London VIEW KIDMAN, Gladys May Daughter Single F 14 1897 School Tottenham Middx VIEW
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Lynne From Up North !!
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2 Mar 2011 16:33 |
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Doreen,
Your mother-in-laws mother during the 1901 census:
Name: Ruby G Kidman Age: 9 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Thomas Kidman Mother's Name: Mary Kidman Gender: Female Where born: Kingsland, London, England Civil parish: Tottenham Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Edmonton Sub-registration district: Tottenham ED, institution, or vessel: 21 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 342 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Kidman 57 - born Stepney, London Mary Kidman 47 - born Hackney, London Harold W Kidman 15 Florance M Kidman 13 Starley T Kidman 12 Ruby G Kidman 9 Ada A Kidman 7 Kate Kidman 6 Gladys M Totteham 4 Mary Packwood 27
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2 Mar 2011 16:33 |
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Looks like her parents marriage - the cert will give their ages and fathers' names, then you could look for them on the 1911 census:
Kidman Ruby G Rickwood Edmonton 3a 941 Rickwood Albert V Kidman Edmonton 3a 941
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2 Mar 2011 16:31 |
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Marriage of her parents:
Marriages Jun 1912 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> Kidman Ruby G Rickwood Edmonton 3a 941 >>>> Rickwood Albert V Kidman Edmonton 3a 941 Sanders Henry W Stocker Edmonton 3a 941 Stocker Florence A Sanders Edmonton 3a 941
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2 Mar 2011 16:30 |
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Doreen,
So this looks like your mother-in-law's birth - you will need to work backwards to see if any link can be found for the Washington name:
Births Jun 1913 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rickwood Margaret G W (MMN) Kidman Edmonton 3a 1066
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2 Mar 2011 16:30 |
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Births Jun 1913 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rickwood Margaret G W Kidman Edmonton 3a 1066
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Jun 1912 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kidman Ruby G Rickwood Edmonton 3a 941 Rickwood Albert V Kidman Edmonton 3a 941
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doreen
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2 Mar 2011 16:24 |
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My husband's mother was born in 1913 and died in May 1980. Her full name was Margaret Gladys Washington Rickwood. Born in Croydon Surrey we think.
She married Reginal Albert Perry and they lived in Bristol.
Washington may be a family name passed down. We are really interested to know if it is?
Help appreciated. Doreen
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