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HI Madbull

Many, many thanks for all the info that you have found for me - a lot to absorb & all very interesting.....

Two days ago, I kew so little about Sarah & James Workman - who it apears were cousins ( Sarah was my great-grandmother - James had died prior to my gran, Ada Lily Workman being born - so dont know who my great grandfather is )

Now - I know quite a bit - albeit, I need to 'understand' properly, all the relationships here.........

But, once again - I thank you for your help - and Andy & Chrissa - without you all I would still be 'in the dark'

Gill

I know you didn't ask for it but curiosity overcame me. I had to try and sort out this family. On the 1861 census Emma who was just a lodger in 1871 is a grandaughter,
1861 census
No address just private, Charfield
James Workman, head, 67, ag lab
Elizabeth, wife, 62
John, son, 21, ag lab
Susan, dau, 17
Emma, grandau, 6

Parents born Nibley, children Charfield.

Living next door to James Jr.
1871 census
5 Back Terrace, Charfield
James Workman Senior, head, 74?, ag lab, born N. Nibley
Elizabeth, wife, 74, born "
David, son, 50, ag lab
John, son, 32, coach man
Susanna, dau, 28, wool picker
Amelia, dau, 9
Henry, son, 6
Clara, dau, 3
Emma, lodger, 18, spinner

Everybody except parents born Charfield.

Children couldn't be James & Elizabeth's. Whose are they? John is married but he's the only one.

1871 census
6 Back Terrace, Charfield, Gloucestershire
James Workman Jr., head, 48, ag lab, born N. Nibley
Mary, wife, 40, born Hawkesbury
Emily, dau, 19, spinner
Ruth, dau, 17, feeder (woollen cloth)
Sarah, dau, 13, "
Martha, dau, 12,
Helen, dau, 11
George, son, 2
Louisa, dau, 9

Children all born Charfield.
Don't know why Louisa is listed last, they're usually in birth order. Maybe mother just forgot her (So many children she didn't know what to do!)

ok - this is really cheaky - as you have all been SO helpful - but I have just realised - I have one gap in my census records for Sarah Ann Workman & her parents / siblings in 1871 -

Is it possible please for someone to kindly take a look & find them?

This is them in 1861:
1861 England Census
about Sarah A Workman
Name: Sarah A Workman Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James Workman
Mother's Name: Mary Workman
Gender: Female
Where born: Charfield, Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish: Charfield County/Island: Gloucestershire
Street Address:
Occupation:
Registration district: Thornbury Sub-registration district: Berkeley
ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Household schedule number: 73
Household Members: Name Age
James Workman 38
Mary Workman 29
Elizabeth Workman 12
Emily Workman 9
Ruth Workman 7
Sarah A Workman 5
Martha Workman 2
Louisa Workman 1 MO

Thank you

ok - thats great - thank you........

In England, after the Act of Uniformity 1662 a Nonconformist was an English subject belonging to a non-Christian religion or any non-Anglican church. A person who also advocated religious liberty may also be more narrowly considered as such. English Dissenters (such as Puritans and Presbyterians) who violated the Act of Uniformity 1559 may retrospectively be considered Nonconformists, typically by practising or advocating radical, sometimes separatist, dissent with respect to the Established Church.

Presbyterians, Congregationalists, Baptists, Quakers (founded in 1648), and those less organized were considered Nonconformists at the time of the 1662 Act of Uniformity. Later, as other groups formed, they were also considered Nonconformists. These included Methodists, Unitarians, and members of the Salvation Army.

The religious census of 1851 revealed that total Nonconformist attendance was very close to that of Anglicans.

Non-conformist?

I have been off line - so only just picked up yur messages .......

Thank you so much for all your work and the info you have given me - very, very much appreciated and has filled several 'gaps'....

Quick qestion - what does Methodist-Nc, mean?? ( ref: last infofor James & Charles Workman )

thanks again

The address for James & Mary & family in 1861 just says private which I think means private house. If it's any help the previous page has the "Talbot Arms" pub.

James is an ag lab born Nibley, Mary born Hawkesbury, children born Charfield.

Charles & Lucy's address in 1861 is the same, private.
Charles is an ag lab born Charfield, Lucy born Kingswood, children Charfield.

I had posted the address in 1851, Charfield Green.

Therte is this from 1841

1841 England Census
about Charles Workman
Name: Charles Workman
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Gender: Male
Where born: Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Charfield
Hundred: Grumbalds Ash (Upper Division)
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Thornbury
Sub-registration district: Berkeley
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Workman 40
Elizabeth Workman 35
Mary Workman 14
>>>>Charles Workman 10
Sarah Workman 8
Martha Workman 6
Elizabeth Workman 4
Thomas Workman 3
John Workman 1 2 MO
Nk 6 MO


and a seperate entry for

James Workman 19


and from the IGI


Results for: Workman, British Isles
Father: James , Mother: Elizabeth
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Batch Number: C036071
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1. JAMES WORKMAN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 18 MAR 1822 Methodist-Nc, Dursley, Gloucester, England

2. CHARLES WORKMAN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 17 JUN 1828 Methodist-Nc, Dursley, Gloucester, England

so looks like Charles and James are brothers

which means Joseph and Sarah are cousins

Andy

Are there any street addresses shown in 1851 / 1861 ?? please.

Andy

You are Brill !

I have been really struggling to find Sarah & Joseph - who married in THornbury in 1884 . I had believed that they were related somehow and this is a definate possiblity and certainly - something new for me to research.

I had this info so far:
Sarah Ann Workman married a Joseph Workman in Thornbury 1884.
Joseph later dies in Thornbury June qtr 1897 aged 38yrs
They had several children.

In 1899 - Sarah Workman had a daughter - Ada Lily Workman ( who was my grandmother).

Then Sarah Ann Workman marries again -
Marriages Sep 1902 (>99%)
Beckerton William Thornbury 6a 537
Workman Sarah Ann Thornbury 6a 537
Eventually - they move to Pontypridd.

I know nothing about Sarah Ann Workman ( or indead Joseph Workman) - other than they were born in Charfield / Thornbury c 1860. So I am desperate to trace them and thire families etc.

1851 census
Charfield Green, Charfield
James Workman, head, 25, ag lab, born N. Nibley
Mary A., wife, 23, born Hawkesbury
Elizabeth, dau, 2, born Charfield
Charles, brother, 22, ag lab, born N. Nibley

Thois might be the Sarah Workman

1861 England Census
about Sarah A Workman
Name: Sarah A Workman
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James Workman
Mother's Name: Mary Workman
Gender: Female
Where born: Charfield, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Charfield
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Thornbury
Sub-registration district: Berkeley
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 73
Household Members: Name Age
James Workman 38
Mary Workman 29
Elizabeth Workman 12
Emily Workman 9
Ruth Workman 7
Sarah A Workman 5
Martha Workman 2
Louisa Workman 1 MO


I wonder if Charles and James are brothers?

Andy

1861 England Census
about Charles Workman
Name: Charles Workman
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Lucy Workman
Gender: Male
Where born: Charfield, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Charfield
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Thornbury
Sub-registration district: Berkeley
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 28
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Workman 30 Ag Labourer
Lucy Workman 25
Ellen Workman 3
Joseph Workman 1


Andy

superb - thank you..........

is it possible to find them please in 1961 - I am particularly keen to find Joseph Workman as a baby ( also, I wonder if there was a Sarah )?

Occupation s & street address very useful..........many thanks again....

1871 England Census
about Jane Workman
Name: Jane Workman
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Charles Workman
Mother's Name: Lucy Workman
Gender: Female
Where born: Charfield, Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish: Charfield
Ecclesiastical parish: Charfield
Town: Charfield
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Thornbury
Sub-registration district: Berkeley
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 51
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Workman 41
Lucy Workman 37
Ellen Workman 14
Joseph Workman 11
Jane Workman 9
Rosehannah Workman 6
Alice Workman 3
John Workman 1

Address looks like Charfield Back Terrace

Can someone please take a look for this family in 1871 census

This is the family in 1881:
1881 Census:
WORKMAN, Charles Head Married M 52 1829 General Labourer Charfield Gloucestershire
WORKMAN, Lucy Wife Married F 46 1835 Charfield
WORKMAN, Jane Daughter Single F 19 1862 Worker In Elastic Factory (India Rubber) Charfield Gloucestershire
WORKMAN, Rosehanah Daughter Single F 15 1866 Worker In Elastic Factory (India Rubber) Charfield Gloucestershire
WORKMAN, Alice Daughter Single F 12 1869 Scholar Charfield WORKMAN, John Wm Son Single M 10 1871 Scholar Charfield
WORKMAN, Annie Daughter Single F 7 1874 Scholar Charfield WORKMAN, Honour Daughter Single F 2 1879