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Mike *

Mike * Report 25 Mar 2011 22:33

Certificates rules everytime !
Thanks for the feedback.

mgnv

mgnv Report 27 Mar 2011 04:03

Assuming they didn't wed in Ireland, then there are several possible marrs in the NW - the most likely is:

Marriages Dec 1885 (>99%)
Hanratty Mary Kendal 10b 1051
O'Hara Patrick Kendal 10b 1051


1891 England Census
Civil parish: Kirkland
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Kendal
County/Island: Westmorland
Country: England
Street Address: 12 Kirkland
Registration district: Kendal
Sub-registration district: Kendal
ED, institution, or vessel: 3

Patrick Ohare 30 Ireland Head M General Dealer & Lodging House Keeper
Mary Ohare 25 Ireland Wife M General Dealer (Shop)
Thomas Ohare 6/12 Kendal, Westmorland, England Son
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Bridget Ohare 3 Kendal, Westmorland, England Daughter
James Canavan 45 Ireland Lodger S Carpenter
George Tierney 40 Ireland Lodger S General Labourer
Peter Campbell 38 Cumberland, England Lodger S General Labourer
John Simpson 31 Preston, Lancashire, England Lodger S General Labourer
John Burns 26 Ireland Lodger S General Labourer
Joseph Halliday 41 Ireland Lodger S General Labourer
William Smith 46 Ireland Lodger S General Labourer
John Walsh 25 Ireland Lodger S General Labourer
James Higgins 28 Ireland Lodger S General Labourer

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 4332; Folio 40; Page 22; GSU roll: 6099442.
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 4332; Folio 41; Page 23; GSU roll: 6099442.


Deaths Mar 1898 (>99%)
O'HARE Patrick 38 Kendal 10b 460

Marriages Sep 1900 (>99%)
Cragg Christopher Kendal 10b 1253
Murphy Peter Kendal 10b 1253
O'Hare Mary Kendal 10b 1253
Riley Mabel Bell Kendal 10b 1253


1901 England Census
Civil parish: Lancaster
Ecclesiastical parish: Lancaster St Mary
Town: Lancaster
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 9 Bridge Lane
Registration district: Lancaster
Sub-registration district: Lancaster
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Household schedule number: 147

Peter Murphy 40 Ireland Head M Corporation Labourer
Mary Murphy 35 Ireland Wife M
Thomas O'hall 11 Kendal, Westmorland, England Stepson
Barnard O'hall 8 Kendal, Westmorland, England Stepson
Owen O'hall 4 Kendal, Westmorland, England Stepson
Annie O'hall 3 Kendal, Westmorland, England Stepdaughter
Owen Murphy 30 Ireland Boarder S Bricklayer Labourer
Michael Lochmann 60 Ireland Boarder S Pedlar Hawk

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 3989; Folio: 72; Page: 30.
[Image reads O"Hare, not O'hall - correction subm'd. Image reads Barnard & Owen, too]


Births Mar 1885 (>99%)
O'Hara Thomas Kendal 10b 726

Deaths Mar 1885 (>99%)
O'Hara Thomas 0 Kendal 10b 491

Births Sep 1888 (>99%)
O'HARE Bridget Bootle 10b 663
[Bootle RD did include Millom thru 1939q1]

Births Dec 1890 (>99%)
O'Hara Thomas Kendal 10b 393 [bad page #]

Births Mar 1893 (>99%)
O'Hare Barnett Kendal 10b 743
[I believe this is Barnard - if I were to buy this b.cert, I would definitely get it from Kendal RO, not the GRO]

Births Sep 1895 (>99%)
O'Hare Holme Kendal 10b 757
[I believe this is Owen - if I were to buy this b.cert, I would definitely get it from Kendal RO, not the GRO]

Births Dec 1897 (>99%)
O'Hare Annie Kendal 10b 716

Katriona

Katriona Report 27 Mar 2011 20:58

Thanks for the post
They are the correct ones. My Grandmother Bridget doesn't show with them on the 1901 as she was with her Grandparents in Ireland. Our Thomas O'Hare died in 1960 but I wonder who the parents were of the one born and died 1885?
It was Annie I was curious about, as to what happened to her after the 1911 census and did she marry? I now have her Birth, Marriage and Death Certificates. And information on her children, but many thanks for trying to help on this.

mgnv

mgnv Report 27 Mar 2011 22:13

My guess is Patrick & Mary had Thomas(1), and then after his death, had Thomas(2). It wasn't uncommon to recycle the names of dead kids.

There is one other ~O'Hare Kendal birth 1881-1901, so maybe I'm wrong:

Births Dec 1890 (>99%)
O'Hara Tommy Kendal 10b 696

Katriona

Katriona Report 29 Mar 2011 00:38

Yes I have come across this. The term is called Past On's, when a child dies another child born to the same parents is given the dead child's name. A branch of my father's side used this with a few of their children. Back in those days children were usually named after the Grandparents. First male after paternal Grandfather, first female after maternal Grandmother. Then reversed for 2nd male and 2nd female. But In this case neither Grandfathers were called Thomas. Also Bridget was their first daughter, but her maternal Grandmother was not called Bridget. So that doesn't follow either.