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census new eyes please

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♥Deetortrainingnewfys♥

♥Deetortrainingnewfys♥ Report 18 Mar 2011 10:49

Would someone look at a 1861 census for me please. I am having difficulty in reading the address of an ancester.

John Palmer, Wheathill, Shropshire RG9/1847
he is a servant unmarried aged 18, Carter? born Delbury, Salop
It is something beginning with B - Beesom?

Just further down is the rest of his family at The Nap.
Thankyou
Dee

RutlandBelle

RutlandBelle Report 18 Mar 2011 10:55

well it looks like Beesom to me

RutlandBelle

RutlandBelle Report 18 Mar 2011 10:56

if you look at the description of the enumeration district it says 'Beesom farms and cottages'

♥Deetortrainingnewfys♥

♥Deetortrainingnewfys♥ Report 18 Mar 2011 10:58

Thank you, I hadn't noticed that.
Much appreciated, thank you for looking for me.
Regards
Dee

♥Deetortrainingnewfys♥

♥Deetortrainingnewfys♥ Report 18 Mar 2011 10:59

One more thing - do you think it says carter as his occupation?

Maddie

Maddie Report 18 Mar 2011 10:59

as traanscribed on fmp
RG number:
RG09 Piece:
1847 Folio:
16 Page:
3

Registration District:
Cleobury Mortimer Sub District:
2 Stottesden Enumeration District:
2 Ecclesiastical Parish:

1861 census - household transcription
Person: PALMER, John
Address: Beesom, Upper House Green, Wheathill


HODNET, Edward Head Married M 64 1797 Farmer Of 130 Acres Employing 2 Labourer 2 Boys
Wheathill
Shropshire VIEW
HODNET, Mary Wife Married F 72 1789
Wheathill
Shropshire VIEW
HODNET, Alice Daughter Unmarried F 37 1824 Farmers Daughter
Wheathill
Shropshire VIEW
HOWELLS, Isaac Grandson Unmarried M 16 1845 Scholar
Clee St Margaret
Shropshire VIEW
HOWELLS, Jacob Grandson M 10 1851 Scholar
Clee St Margaret
Shropshire VIEW
HOWELLS, Abraham Grandson M 10 1851 Carters Boy
Clee St Margaret
Shropshire VIEW
PALMER, John Servant Unmarried M 18 1843 Carter
Holbury
Shropshire

Civil Parish:
Wheathill Municipal Borough:
Address:
Beesom, Upper House Green, Wheathill County:
Shrops

♥Deetortrainingnewfys♥

♥Deetortrainingnewfys♥ Report 18 Mar 2011 11:01

I have been trying to find the connection between John and William from the same census, I think he may be a brother, but I cannot find John in 1851

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 18 Mar 2011 11:02

I agree it reads Beesom.
On the probate listing for Edward HODNETT , his employer ( d. July 1887 ) it is referred to as Beasom.


Gwyn

Mary

Mary Report 18 Mar 2011 11:05

If you google Besom Farm Wheathill Shropshire it says Valuation of furniture at Besom Farm in 1887

Edward Hodnett was there 1841 -1881 maybe he died 1887?

Maryb

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 18 Mar 2011 11:09

Yes it does say that John was a Carter.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 18 Mar 2011 11:14

1851 England Census
about John Palmer Name: John Palmer
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William Palmer
Mother's Name: Mary Palmer
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Diddlebury, Shropshire, England

Civil parish: Westhope
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Registration district: Ludlow
Sub-registration district: Leintwardine
ED, institution, or vessel: 1b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 48
Household Members: Name Age
William Palmer 37 Born Culmington, Shropshire
Mary Palmer 35 Born Richards Castle Hereford
Eliza Palmer 12
John Palmer 10 *********SON
Edwin Palmer 7
Mary Palmer 1


Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 18 Mar 2011 11:15

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations),1861-1941
about Edward Hodnett
Name: Edward Hodnett
Probate Date: 13 Dec 1887
Death Date: 14 Jul 1887
Death Place: Shropshire, England

(late of the Beasom, Wheathill, farmer, Executor Thomas Hodnett, 38, Ruston St. Birmingham, son. Personal Estate £ 227 19s 8d

Chris :)

edits to add, has the 'A' on 1881, but definitely looks to be 'E' on 1851, 1861 and 1871...

♥Deetortrainingnewfys♥

♥Deetortrainingnewfys♥ Report 18 Mar 2011 11:35

Mel thank you. Thats him and yes, he is the brother of William (william Palmer is my Gt Grandfather).

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 18 Mar 2011 11:40

When was William the brother born?

EDIT 1853

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 18 Mar 2011 11:49

WILLIAM PALMER Pedigree
Male

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 02 JAN 1853 Diddlebury, Shropshire, England

Parents:
Father: WILLIAM PALMER Family
Mother: MARY

Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 18 Mar 2011 11:52

Funny how John is not on here????

William and siblings Christenings.

ELIZA PALMER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 28 APR 1839 Diddlebury, Shropshire, England

2. GEORGE PALMER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 25 APR 1847 Diddlebury, Shropshire, England

3. MARY PALMER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 31 MAR 1850 Diddlebury, Shropshire, England

4. WILLIAM PALMER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 02 JAN 1853 Diddlebury, Shropshire, England

5. EDWIN PALMER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 25 AUG 1844 Diddlebury, Shropshire, England

6. WALTER PALMER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 04 JAN 1857 Diddlebury, Shropshire, England

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 18 Mar 2011 11:55

Poss marriage??????

WILLIAM PALMER Pedigree
Male Family


Marriages:
Spouse: MARY PALMER Family
Marriage: 16 MAY 1837 Bromyard, Hereford, England

Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.

♥Deetortrainingnewfys♥

♥Deetortrainingnewfys♥ Report 18 Mar 2011 13:25

thank you Mel

I have this info, though I didn't have the date of William & mary's marriage, just where

much appreciated
Dee