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I was thinking of a pay as you go subscription, since I already FMP. Think I will see if any of my family have a subscription this year. Thanks again. Pam

Two others trees on Ancestry have James Spinks as father - so the other tree might be wrong. Nice photo of Joseph Smith attached to the Smith tree, if you want to arrange access again sometime.

Thanks Keeley,

I am even more confused now.
My Emma Wilson Spinks married Joseph Smith on 2nd Apr 1889 at St Barnabus, Openshaw, which is Manchester. Have certificate.
She died in Manchester just before the 1911 census.
Father: James Wilson Spinks. This is from the marriage certificate.
Birthplace: Walsall,Staffordshire from 1891 census.
Children: Edward, Eliza Jane (my ggran) Joseph, Mary & James
So still not sure if this is a relation or not.

Thanks for looking. Pam

This is the info that is registered on the Ancestry tree for the 1881 census which confirms parents but they don't match to your parents names in initial post?

Name Age
Thomas Spinks 48
Charlotte Spinks 46
Thomas Spinks 23
James Spinks 18
Emma Spinks 13
Alfred Spinks 10
Herbert Spinks 8
Ann M. Spinks 6
Martha A. Spinks 3
Edward J. Hewett 3


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Hi. On the Smith tree on Ancestry, this is the info I can see. Let me know if you need any more than this (not sure what you are looking for). There are another couple of trees which also seem to have the same person.

Emma Wilson Spinks b. 1868 Lincolnshire
Married Joseph Smith in Opensham (think this is Manchester?) on 2 April 1889
Death in Yarmouth in 1950

Parents are Thomas Spinks (b. 1833) and Charlotte Farnsworth (b. 1835).

Showing as children Edward (b. 1892, d. 1961), Eliza Jane (b. 1894, d. 1953), Joseph (b. 1896) and Mary (b. 1899, d. 1980)

Hi Everyone,
Someone has put Emma Wilson Spinks b.1868 on Ancestry and I no longer have a subscription. It is on "Smith family tree" which is promising since she married Joe Smith.
Please could someone have a quick look.

Thanks, Pam

Hi, Do not know if there is a connection.
Have a marriage certificate for great granparents.
Ggranmother was Emma Wilson Spinks born c1868 in Walsall.
Her father was James Wilson Spinks
I have not been able to trace them or any of their family.
Do you know of any family members with Wilson as there middle name?
Pam

hi prob no connection but i was cheryl spinks before i got married, my father is/was brian edward spinks. his sister is called pamela /
/


? weird if no connection hope to hear bk from

Thanks Ann..., Looks to be correct except fathers name on marriage certificate is James Wilson Spinks. Pam

Mary J Spink
England and Wales Census, 1881
birth: 1865 — Walsall, Staffordshire, England
christening:
baptism:
death:
burial:
residence: 1881 — Walsall Foreign, Staffordshire, England
parents: James Spink, Mary Spink
spouse:
child:
marriage:

record title: England and Wales Census, 1881
name: Mary J Spink
age: 16
gender: Female
birth year: 1865
birthplace: Walsall, Staffordshire, England
relationship to head of household: Daughter
marital condition: Single
address: 25 Field Gate
census place: Walsall Foreign, Staffordshire, England
record type: Household
family history library film: 1341677
the national archives reference: RG11
piece/folio: 2828 / 7
page number:

Joseph W Spinks
England and Wales Census, 1881
birth: 1867 — Walsall, Staffordshire, England
christening:
baptism:
death:
burial:
residence: 1881 — Walsall Borough, Staffordshire, England
parents: Joseph Spinks, Mary Jane Spinks
spouse:
child:
marriage:

record title: England and Wales Census, 1881
name: Joseph W Spinks
age: 14
gender: Male
birth year: 1867
birthplace: Walsall, Staffordshire, England
relationship to head of household: Son
marital condition: Single
profession/occupation: Silver Platers Apprentice (Electro)
address: 15 Bentleys Buildings
census place: Walsall Borough, Staffordshire, England
record type: Household
family history library film: 1341675
the national archives reference: RG11
piece/folio: 2822 / 11
page number: 15

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James Spink
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
birth:
christening: 29 Oct 1866 — Wallsall, Stafford, England
baptism:
death:
burial:
residence:
parents: Henry Spink, Marion
spouse:
child:
marriage:

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: James Spink
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 29 Oct 1866
baptism/christening place: Wallsall, Stafford, England
father's name: Henry Spink
mother's name: Marion
indexing project (batch) number: C06065-2
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1526196

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Emma Spink
England and Wales Census, 1881
birth: 1869 — Walsall, Staffordshire, England
christening:
baptism:
death:
burial:
residence: 1881 — Ardwick, Lancashire, England
parents: Henry Spink, Mary J Spink
spouse:
child:
marriage:

record title: England and Wales Census, 1881
name: Emma Spink
age: 12
gender: Female
birth year: 1869
birthplace: Walsall, Staffordshire, England
relationship to head of household: Daughter
marital condition: Single
address: 3 Barton Court
census place: Ardwick, Lancashire, England
record type: Household
family history library film: 1341930
the national archives reference: RG11
piece/folio: 3895 / 25
page number: 43

Hi Ria, Thanks for the transcript. I will keep in case he is family. It gives me somewhere else to look.

PollyPoppet. Thanks too. I need all the help I can get.

Pam

Hi Pam, Not sure if he belongs to you : -
North Country News .
The North-Eastern Daily Gazette (Middlesbrough, England), Monday, December 19, 1892

A SMUGGLER'S STRANGE DEFENCE
At West Hartlepool today, James W Spinks steward on board the steamer Alicia, was charged with smuggling 41/2 lbs of tobacco and 3/4lb of cigars = Customs Oficer Soulsby proved finding the smuggled goods beneath a false floor on board the vessel. The Defendant did not deny the charge, he said he accidentally came across the false floor and believing that it had previously been used for smuggling purposes, he was unable to resist the temptation to conceal some tobacco and cigars which he intended for Christmas consumption. He was ordered to pay single value duty and costs amounting in all to £3. 3s 10d or one months hard labour.

Not useful in a dates sort of way, but a snapshot in time.

Ria x

sorry Pam thought it was her birth lol will keep looking

Hi PollyPoppet, yes that's the one. Married at St Barnabus Openshaw.

Hi Ann, the only definite information is the marriage certificate stating age 21. So she would have been born 1867/68. The census gives Walsall Staffs as place, but...

Hi Ria, yes please. Have been searching for years. Managed to find the Smiths for a few hundred years, but no luck with Spinks so far.

Pam

Name Emma Wilson Spinks
Year of Marriage 1889
Quarter of Marriage Apr-May-Jun
Registration District Chorlton
Registration County Lancashire
Spouse's Surname Only available for records after 1912
Volume Number 8C
Volume Page 1141

I have an article in an old newspaper about a James W Spinks
It is a middlesborough paper - and it says he is a steward onboard a steamer. The paper is dated 1892.
I thought is such an unusual name - Would you like me to write it out for you?

Ria x