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just to keep this thread updated

from his police record Thomas Dean did indeed marry Hannah Price at St George's Leeds

son Thomas Henry Dean married Emma Wallace at Christ Church Waterloo, Crosby

From LancsOPC...Hannah was baptised at the Priory Church of St Mary

Baptism: 8 Aug 1852 St Mary, Lancaster, Lancashire, England
Hannah Price - [Child] of Samuel Price & Elizabeth
Born: 10 Jun 1852
Abode: Lancaster
Occupation: Labourer
Baptised by: E Pedder, Curate
Register: Baptisms 1845 - 1852, Page 284, Entry 2268
Source: LDS File 1526200

For pictures of the church....................

http://www.churches-uk-ireland.org/images/lancs/lancaster/mary.jpg

and.......

http://www.churches-uk-ireland.org/images/lancs/lancaster/mary_int.jpg

when you get the police records from the LRO you should get a wealth of info. The Thomas Dean (Police ref PL11/17) is your man.

Can't remember if you found him in 1861 but if not it was because he was serving with 15th Hussars. Born Hanley, Staffs,
Living Liverpool when joined police Apr 1872, removed from force 17-8-1896 as died 11-8-1896
married Leeds to mary (?) Hannah Price
there is a lot more detail on the record

PL11/27 Thomas Henry b 13-1-1872 died 21-2-1942 - son?

I will have a quick look for herbert

in fact

http://www.lancashire.gov.uk/education/record_office/records/policesearch.asp

there are 2 Thomas Dean's

this page gives an enquiry form. The details may show that Thomas was transferred to Leeds. At best it will give you his full police record and when and where he married

the yorks bmd version to prove which bride

Yorkshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1874
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
DEAN Thomas PRICE Hannah St George, Leeds Leeds CE44/C/180

if Thomas was a police constable you may be able to find police records for him

Could this be their marriage?

Marriages Jun 1874
Atkinson Elizabeth Leeds 9b 547
Croysdale John Leeds 9b 547
>>>DEAN Thomas Leeds 9b 547
>>>Price Hannah Leeds 9b 547

Perhaps Thomas was married before?

and Hannah

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1852
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
PRICE Hannah Lancaster Preston GARTH LAN/17/75


Baptisms: 8 Aug 1852 St Mary, Lancaster, Lancashire, England
Hannah Price - Child of Samuel Price & Elizabeth
Born: 10 Jun 1852
Abode: Lancaster
Occupation: Labourer
Baptised by: E Pedder, Curate
Register: Baptisms 1845 - 1852, Page 284, Entry 2268
Source: LDS File 1526200

if that is the right family Elizabeth's maiden name was Garth

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1850
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
PRICE * Samuel GARTH Elizabeth Lancaster, St Mary Preston CE12/4/239
PRICE * Samuel SHUTTLEWORTH Elizabeth Lancaster, St Mary Preston CE12/4/239

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1842
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
SHUTTLEWORTH Agnes Lancaster Preston GARTH LAN/5/88

1851 England Census
about Samuel Price
Name: Samuel Price
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1814
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Price
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Northwich, Cheshire, England

Civil parish: Lancaster
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Lancaster Castle
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Lancaster
Sub-registration district: Lancaster
ED, institution, or vessel: 5m
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 178
Piece: 2272
Folio: 486
Page Number: 44
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Price 37
Elizabeth Price 39
Sarah Shuttleworth 18 <<Step children
Ann Shuttleworth 16
Jane Shuttleworth 11
Agnes Shuttleworth 8
Elizabeth Shuttleworth 5

England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
about Hannah Price
Name: Hannah Price
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 10 Jun 1852
Christening Date: 8 Aug 1852
Christening Place: Lancaster, Lancashire, England
Age at Christening: 0
Father's name: Samuel Price
Mother's name: Elizabeth


Thinking out loud!

I wonder if this is Hannah's parents marriage?


Marriages Dec 1850 (>99%)
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Price Samuel Lancaster 21 472 <<<
Shuttleworth Elizabeth Lancaster 21 472 <<<<

?
Births Jun 1852
Price Hannah Lancaster 8e 532

Just to keep you all up to date .... (I appreciate all your help)

My grand-fathers birth certificate has just arrived - it turns out Hannah was 'Price' - hadn't even come close to that one!

At least I know who I am trying to track down now! Must admit to being puzzled as I can find only one marriage reference - in Leeds! (Seems unlikely, but ....)

The 1881 census shows Hannah as being from 'Lancashire, Lancaster'. So I have a bit of a riddle to solve - How does a girl from 'Lancashire, Lancaster' get to meet a lad from Hanley, Staffordshire and have a brood the length and breadth of Lancashire?

Thanks for your help though - I wouldn't have got here otherwise!

Cheers,

Greg

The information provided by Ginny is certainly what I had been looking at as providing me with the link between Thomas Dean of Hanley and Hannah his wife of Lancaster. The tender age of Hannah at the marriage tends to suggest this probably isn't the right one. The 1881 census and 1891 census details provided by BatMans mum are the correct family. the 1891 census, which has so far eluded me provides a couple of unexpected surprises. Having looked at both Thomas Dean and Charles Corns, it is shaping up to be a large family gathering ....

This is their daughters birth registration...... I think I would order a birth certificate to confirm Hannah's maiden name;


Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Dec 1878 (>99%)
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Dean Ann Isabel Burnley 8e 255


Dee x

Hi,

I presume this is the census for Thomas and Hannah;

1881 England Census
about Thomas Dean
Name: Thomas Dean
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Hannah Dean
Gender: Male
Where born: Hanley, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Upholland
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: Roby Mill
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Police Constable

Registration district: Wigan
Sub-registration district: Upholland
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Dean 37
Hannah Dean 28 Born Lancaster, Lancashire
Thomas Hy. Dean 9
Elizabeth Dean 6
Annie Isabell Dean 2
John Wm. Dean


1891 England Census
about Hannah Dean
Name: Hannah Dean
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas Dean
Gender: Female
Where born: Lancaster, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Tonge With Haulgh
Ecclesiastical parish: St Augustine
Town: Tonge
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Bolton
Sub-registration district: Tonge with Haulgh
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Dean 49 >> Police constable
Hannah Dean 38
Thos H Dean 19
Eliz Dean 16
Frances Dean 14
Annie I Dean 12
John W Dean 10
Lawrence Dean 8
Herbert A Dean 5
George Dean 2


So it looks likely that the marriage posted above can't be them. Where did you get Hannah's maiden name from?


Dee x

Name: John Green
Gender: Male
Event Type: Marriage
Birth Date:
Christening Date:
Marriage Date: 14 May 1855
Banns Date:
Death Date:
Burial Date:
Event Date:
Birthplace:
Christening Place:
Marriage Place: St. Oswald's, Chester, Cheshire, England
Banns Place:
Death Place:
Burial Place:
Event Place:
Father's Name: Thomas Green
Mother's Name:
Principal's Marital Status: Widowed
Principal's Residence: St. Oswald, Chester, Cheshire, England
Spouse's Name: Hannah Bowdler
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Residence: St. Oswald, Chester, Cheshire, England
Spouse's Father: Thomas Bowdler
Spouse's Mother:
Age: Full Age
Image Number: 13
Digital Folder Number: 4201836
Film Number: 2068357
Collection: England, Cheshire Parish Registers, 1538-2000

Marriage: 29 Jul 1868 St George, Everton, Lancashire, England
Thomas Dean - 44 Book Keeper Widower of Everton
Hannah Green - 34 Widow of Everton
Groom's Father: Samuel Dean, Saddler
Bride's Father: Thomas Bowdler, Boot Maker
Witness: Thomas Harrison; Lydia? Knight
Married by Banns by: W. T. Hindley Curate
Register: Marriages 1866 - 1869, Page 156, Entry 311
Source: LDS Film 2147878

Marriages Sep 1868 (>99%)
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Dean Thomas West Derby 8b 568
Green Hannah W. Derby 8b 568
Kelly William West Derby 8b 568
Murdock Elizabeth Agnes West Derby 8b 568


The marriage certificate should give you her fathers details

At the moment I have a vague reference to a Hannah Green of Lancaster who married a Thomas Dean, originally of Hanley in 1868. I am trying to find more information about Hannah Green. Any help much appreciated.