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Sylvia
Thank you. Yes you are right,I will get the cert.
I wanted to make sure it was the right marriage though.
I knew William's wife was named Susannah and their rough ages through the census but didn't know when or where they married , so couldn't be sure that the one on Freebmd was the right one.
From the info Maddie supplied,I am sure it is
Lara

Lara


teh only way you can see who actually married who, and thus be absolutely certain that you are following the correct family, is by buying the actual certificate


anything else is still conjecture.





sylvia

Gwyn
I just came back on and saw the info you put on.
Thank you very much!
Lara

Maybe the same Henry...?

Deaths Mar 1869

Smith Henry Jervis, 1 ....Pancras 1b 122

Name: Ada Emma Smith ........b. 28 Sept.1865
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1867
Baptism Date: 28 Apr 1867
Father's name: William Smith
Mother's name: Susannah Smith
Parish or Poor Law Union: Haverstock Hill Holy Trinity
Borough: Camden

Florence Emily, (b. 6 March 1864 ) and Henry Jervis,( b. 15 March 1867 ) both with same parents were also baptised that day.
William is shown as Schoolmaster, Orphan working school, Haverstock Hill.


Gwyn

Maddie
You have been a really big help!
Thank you for spending so much time on it
Lara

hope it helps
good hunting
maddie

Maddie
Brilliant,,thanks for finding Susannah.
I did wonder how she met William in Ipswich,loks like her family lived there.
Thank you so much
Lara

susannah in 1851
1851 England Census
about Susannah Jervis
Name: Susannah Jervis
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Henry Jervis
Mother's name: Susannah Jervis
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Coggeshall, Essex, England

Civil parish: Ipswich St Matthew
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

View image

Registration district: Ipswich
Sub-registration district: St Matthedw
ED, institution, or vessel: 5b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 33
Piece: 1799
Folio: 307
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Jervis 41
Susannah Jervis 38
Rebecca Jervis 18
Susannah Jervis 16
Emily Jervis 13
John T Jervis 9
William Jervis 7
Mary Jervis

Maddie
Thank you for finding them in 1861.
That is really great..
Smiths are not easy to find!
Lara

Maddie
Thank you
That's them! That's where he was from 1881.
Didn't know he was there before that..
Thank you very much
Lara

1861
SMITH, William Head Married M 25 1836 Master Of...School
Ipswich
Suffolk VIEW
SMITH, Susannah Wife Married F 26 1835
Ipswich
Suffolk VIEW
SMITH, Jessie K Daughter F 0 (11M) 1861
Cheltenham
Gloucestershire VIEW
MILLS, Elizabeth Servant Unmarried F 15 1846 House Servant
Cheltenham
Gloucestershire VIEW
RG number:
RG09 Piece:
1801 Folio:
78 Page:
25

Registration District:
Cheltenham Sub District:
2 Cheltenham Enumeration District:
29 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Marys

Civil Parish:
Cheltenham Municipal Borough:
Address:
5, Bays Hill Par, Queens Retreat, Cheltenham County:
Gloucestershire

1871
SMITH, William Head Master M 35 1836 Suffolk VIEW
SMITH, Susannah Wife F 36 1835 Essex VIEW
SMITH, Jessie Katie Daughter F 11 1860 Gloucestershire VIEW
SMITH, Susy Ellen Daughter F 8 1863 Gloucestershire VIEW
SMITH, Florence Emily Daughter F 7 1864 Gloucestershire VIEW
SMITH, Ada Emma Daughter F 5 1866 London VIEW
SMITH, Walter Ernest Son M 2 1869 London VIEW
BLOOMFIELD, Emily Kate Niece F 12 1859 Suffolk VIEW
LEIGH, Lucy F 5 1866 Middlesex VIEW
SMITH, Francis William Son M 1 1870 London VIEW
CLEVERSEA, Sarah Emma Servant F 19 1852 Essex VIEW
FOX, John 2nd Master M 24 1847 Suffolk

G number:
RG10 Piece:
250 Folio:
82 Page:
1

Registration District:
Pancras Sub District:
Kentish Town Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Municipal Borough:
London Address:
Orphan Working School, Maitland Park Haverstock Hill, London County:
London, Middlesex


masses of kids living there
maddie

Maddie
Thanks,I don't know if it is them..the earliest census I have for them is the 1881 where their eldest child is a daughter named Jessie born in 1861 in Cheltenham Gloucs.William was born in Ipswich and Susannah was born in Coggeshall ?? Essex
By 1881 they live iin London

could this be them in 1861
1861 England Census
about William Smith
Name: William Smith
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Susannah Smith
Gender: Male
Where born: Rishangles, Suffolk, England
Civil parish: Ipswich St Margaret
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Ipswich
Sub-registration district: St Margaret
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 32
Piece: 1165
Folio: 123
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
William Smith 31
Susannah Smith 30
Alice Smith 7
Smith 3 Days
Maria Scarlett

however child born before marraige

????

Maddie
Thank you.I think it is the right one,but gets confusing when there are other names listed as well!

BMD Search result details

Civil Registration event: Marriage
Name: SMITH, William
Registration District: Help Ipswich
County: Suffolk
Year of Registration: 1859
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume No: Help 4A
Page No: Help 885
MarriageFinder™: William Smith married one of the following people Help


JERVIS, Susannah view record


PEARL, Sarah Ann view record

I can see a marriage on Freebmd and I think it is the one I am looking for.
Would anyone be able to let me have the details please?
1859 Ipswich Suffolk
William Smith married Susannah Jervis
Thanks