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Would someone please lookup the marriage of william bramley born 1804 in i believe Andover Hampshire and Jane ? possibily Dean born Chelsea 1805.
i can not find anything on genes.
Thank you

If the couple married before 1837 then there will not be a marriage certificate as civil registration did not begin in England until 1837.

Your best bet is to look for a parish record at www.familysearch.org (A free site)

Thanks for letting me know that Jonesey,

Is there a way i can find out who the Jane is who married william, ?

Only by finding a record of their marriage amongst parish records.

Have you found them on any census?

There is a William Bramley marriage in Andover in 1824 but not to a Jane:

14 Sep 1824

Groom Surname: Bramley

Groom Forename: William

Bride Surname: Gold

Bride Forename: Sarah


Parish: Andover

County: Hampshire

Yes Mate, 1861 census under Emily White Bramley.

URL's for info..................

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/default.asp

AND/OR

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#start

Did they have any children after July 1837?

Adeline
you seem to be helping me a lot ,thanks.
i would have imagined that william would have travelled to london to get married if Jane was from Chelsea.
thank you for your help

Buy Emily's birth cert to find out the MMN.

The info you need can be found on freebmd

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

Flick like Adeline you will be getting tired of me.
yes is the answer they had children, the one i was looking at is Emily White Bramley
sorry to be a pain

You are MILES out with the birth years for William and Jane!!

1871 census..........

Name: William Bramley
Age: 51
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1820
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane Bramley
Gender: Male
Where born: Andover, Hampshire, England
Civil parish: Barnsley
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
Town: Barnsley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Barnsley
Sub-registration district: Barnsley
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Household schedule number: 257
Piece: 4646
Folio: 122
Page Number: 45
Household Members: Name Age
William Bramley 51
Jane Bramley 50 b. Wandsworth
Emily W Bramley 16 b. Chelsea
Ada J Bramley 12
Laura M Bramley 8 b. Barnsley
Fredk J Bramley 21 Lodger
Rebecca Bramley 20
Ada J Bramley 8 Months

Look on freebmd (as above) for their marriage

You aren't a 'pain'......but you do need to verify info before posting....lol!

Emily White Bramley was born in 1855 - Jane would have been a very elderly mother if she was born in 1805.

thanks Flick
will try freebmd.
thanks for the help

Ronnie

1851 census:

Name: William Bramley
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane Bramley
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Andover, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: St Anne Soho
Ecclesiastical parish: London
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Registration district: Strand
Sub-registration district: St Anne Soho
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 266
Piece: 1510
Folio: 491
Page Number: 48
Household Members: Name Age
William Bramley 32
Jane Bramley 31
William John Bramley 6
Frederick James Bramley 4

1841 (says NO, to both being born in County

BRAMLEY, William M 20 1821 (Jeweller)
BRAMLEY, Jane F 20 1821
KENT, Eliza F 15 1826 Berkshire

RG number:
HO107 Piece:
33 Book/Folio:
2/8 Page:
11

Registration District:
Newbury Union Sub District:
Newbury Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Newbury Municipal Borough:
Newbury Address:
Northbrook Street, Newbury County:
Berkshire


Name: William Bramley (Jeweller)
Age: Full Age
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Spouse Name: Jane Dean
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 09 Dec 1839
Parish: Trinity Church, Newington
County: Surrey
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: William Bramley (Jeweller)
Spouse Father Name: Jane Dean (Gentleman)

(address for William given as Newbury, Berks.)


(a possible?)

Chris :)

Based upon Williams trade this looks like their marriage:

Name: William Bramley
Age: Full Age
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Spouse Name: Jane Dean
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 09 Dec 1839
Parish: Trinity Church, Newington
County: Surrey
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: William Bramley
Spouse Father Name: Jane Dean

Brides address at time of marriage, 11 West Terrace, St Georges Rd.

Both state of full age which they were not if the ages recorded in the census returns are accurate.

The name of the brides father does indeed read as Jane Dean on the original marriage certificate, her father is described as "Gentleman"

Thanks all
the Jeweller link is strong, and some of the couples kids were born in Newbury.
will try to get certs to confirm.
thanks everyone sorry for misleading ages ,should have put this down whilst football was on last night, sorry

ronnie