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Olive Poingdestre

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jerseylily

jerseylily Report 18 May 2011 15:55

Just to be absolutely sure I'll have a look for Philip E Poingdestre birth next time to check that his middle name was Ernest.

Chickenman51

Chickenman51 Report 18 May 2011 14:21

Jersey thank you so much for your detective work ...... Your help and detailed info sure sets me on a good course for this branch ..... many many thanks <3

jerseylily

jerseylily Report 18 May 2011 13:47

Hello David

I went through the birth indexes looking for your Olive Rose born c1903 and the only one that came anywhere close was the birth of a Rosaline Olive, as found above.

A look at the birth certificate her revealed that she was born on 31/10/1902 at 42, Aquila Rd, St Helier. Her parents were Ernest Poingdestre, a Driver, and Rose Miller. The birth was notified by an Annie Perchard.

This threw me a bit as by looking at earlier censuses I could see that Philip and Henrietta did not have a son called Ernest. However they did have one, born 1880, entered as Philip E, perhaps he was known by his middle name to avoid confusion with his father!

I then found the marriage of Ernest P and Rose Millar, which took place at the St Helier Town Church, 15/7/1902. He was 22 and his occupation was Driver. His father was Philip, also a Driver. This fits with the 1901 where both are described as Carters. To clinch that this is the right family one of the witnesses was L.M. Poingdestre who would be Lilian Maud, Ernest's sister on the 1901.

Rose Miller was also 22 on her marriage certificate, she was born in the parish of St Ouen and her father was John, a Labourer.

Hope this helps

Chickenman51

Chickenman51 Report 11 May 2011 07:37

Thanks Jerseylily ... look forward to that

jerseylily

jerseylily Report 7 May 2011 09:17

David

I can look at the certificate and copy out all the details without parting with a penny, it's only £20 if you want a copy of it.

I'm working at the Archive most weeks anyway so it's not a problem. I'll get back to you later next week.

Chickenman51

Chickenman51 Report 7 May 2011 07:16

Guys thanks given me a lot to work with ... jerseyfly no way spend that kind of money ...... Grandparents seems to have taken on the role and yes her marriage was to my wife's grate uncle hence the interest ..

Sorry that I can not resipricate help mostly housebound these days ,,, but you guys rock thanks again

jerseylily

jerseylily Report 6 May 2011 23:54

Another way to find her parents would be to give me until next week to go and have a look at her birth certificate.

No charge for looking over here but £20 to buy the certificate!

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 6 May 2011 22:42

PHILIP FREDERICK POINGDESTRE Pedigree
Male Family
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Parents:
Father: JEAN POINGDESTRE Family
Mother: ETHER MALLET
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Marriages:
Spouse: SOPHIE JANE POINGDESTRE Family
Marriage: 06 APR 1871 Grouville, Jersey, Channel Islands

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 6 May 2011 22:40

Philip Poingdestre
England and Wales Census, 1901

birth 1856 —St Heliers, Jersey
residence 31 Mar 1901 —St Helier, Jersey, Channel Islands
census 31 Mar 1901 —St Helier, Jersey, Channel Islands

record title: England and Wales Census, 1901
name: Philip Poingdestre
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
age: 45
relationship to head of household: Head
birthplace: St Heliers, Jersey
record type: Household
registration district: Jersey
ecclesiastical parish: St James
civil parish: St Helier
county: Jersey, St Helier, Jersey

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 6 May 2011 22:38

Olive Poingdestre
England and Wales Census, 1901

birth 1885 —St Helier, Jersey
residence 31 Mar 1901 —St Helier, Jersey, Channel Islands
census 31 Mar 1901 —St Helier, Jersey, Channel Islands

record title: England and Wales Census, 1901
name: Olive Poingdestre
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
age: 16
relationship to head of household: Daughter
birthplace: St Helier, Jersey
record type: Household
registration district: Jersey
sub-district: Jersey - St Helier
ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
civil parish: St Helier
county: Jersey, Jersey - St Helier, St Helier, Jersey


Olive Poingdestre
England and Wales Census, 1891

birth St Heliers, Jersey
residence 1891 —Channel Islands
census 1891 —Channel Islands

record title: England and Wales Census, 1891
name: Olive Poingdestre
event: Census
event date: 1891
gender: Female
age: 6
relationship to head of household: Daughter
birthplace: St Heliers, Jersey
record type: Household
registration district: Jersey
sub-district: D
ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
civil parish: St Helier
county:

**Ann**

**Ann** Report 6 May 2011 22:30

16/11/1902 Poingdestre Rosaline Olive (father) Ernest (mother) Rose Miller (Father Annie Perchard )

??????????????????????

Father..................was godfather
Annie Perchard was godmother

Flick

Flick Report 6 May 2011 22:26

1891.........

Name: Henry C Paingdestre
[Henry G Poingdestre]
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
[Abt 1882]
Relation: Son
Father's name: Philip Paingdestre
Mother's name: Henrietta Paingdestre
Gender: Male
Where born: St. Helier, Jersey, Channel Islands
Civil parish: St Helier
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: St Heliers
County/Island: Jersey
Country: Channel Islands
Registration district: Jersey
Sub-registration district: C
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Piece: 4695
Folio: 88
Page Number: 13
Household Members: Name Age
Philip Paingdestre 35
Henrietta Paingdestre 36
Philip E Paingdestre 11
Henry C Paingdestre 19
Lillian M Paingdestre 7
Emily B Paingdestre 5


My money would be on Lilian for the child's mother..........

I don't think CI bmd's are on line..............

Flick

Flick Report 6 May 2011 22:19

1901

Name: Henrietta Poingdentre
[Henrietta Poingdestre]
Age in 1901: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Spouse's Name: Philip Poingdentre
Gender: Female
Where born: St Heliers, Jersey, Channel Islands
Civil parish: St Helier
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
Town: St Helier
County/Island: Jersey
Country: Channel Islands
Registration district: Jersey
Sub-registration district: Jersey
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Household schedule number: 36
Piece: 5312
Folio: 162
Page Number: 5
Household Members: Name Age
Philip Poingdentre 45
Henrietta Poingdentre 46
Philip E Poingdentre 21
Henry G Poingdentre 19
Lilian M Poingdentre 17
Emily B Poingdentre 15

**Ann**

**Ann** Report 6 May 2011 22:17

Is this her marriage??



POINGDESTRE, Olive R
Registration District: Help Falmouth
County: Cornwall
Year of Registration: 1927
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Medlin
Volume No: Help 5C
Page No: Help 313

Name: MEDLIN, Thomas R J
Registration District: Falmouth
County: Cornwall
Year of Registration: 1927
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Poingdestre
Volume No: 5C
Page No: 313

Flick

Flick Report 6 May 2011 22:15

For INFO only

Person: POINGDESTRE, Olive Rose
Address: 2 Roseville St St Helier Jersey

POINGDESTRE, Philip Head Married M 55 1856 Driver Jersey St Helier VIEW
POINGDESTRE, Henrietta Wife Married
33 years F 57 1854 Jersey St Helier VIEW
POINGDESTRE, Olive Rose Granddaughter F 8 1903 Jersey St Helier VIEW

TootyFruity

TootyFruity Report 6 May 2011 22:15

As she was born between census the only way to find out for certain would be to buy her birth certificate

Flick

Flick Report 6 May 2011 22:14

Have you looked at 1901, to see who MAY be her parent?

Do the grandparents have the same surname as the child?

Chickenman51

Chickenman51 Report 6 May 2011 22:11

Born around 1903 in Jersey
1911 Has her living with grandparents
Has anyone got ideas on who her parents were ?

Think safe to say Jersey may have her info but I have limited computer acess thanks for anyone who can help