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john samuel cope

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gatelady

gatelady Report 8 May 2011 23:02

john samuel cope b 1863, ilkeston, derbyshire, uk. d 1944 ilkeston, derbyshire. i am looking for his spouse, i have eliza smedley, but does not seem to tally with 1891 census.
john's parents - john cope b 1836 ilkeston, derbyshire, d 1891, hannah hart b 1840, west hallam, derbyshire, d 1870.
can anybody help please :S

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jansmith

jansmith Report 8 May 2011 23:09

this him in 1881 for info
Name: John Cope
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Son
Father's name: John Cope
Gender: Male
Where born: Derbyshire, England
Civil parish: Derby St Alkmund
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Street Address: 119 Whitecross St

Occupation: Carter
Registration district: Derby
Sub-registration district: Derby
Household Members:
Name Age
John Cope 45
John Cope 17
Alice Cope 15
Martha Cope 11
Louisa Cope 8
Rachael Cope 4
Jane Cope 3


AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 8 May 2011 23:12

John Samuel Cope
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

residence Ilkeston, Derbyshire, England
parents: John Cope, Hannah

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: John Samuel Cope
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 09 Dec 1863
baptism/christening place: Ilkeston, Derby, England
father's name: John Cope
mother's name: Hannah
indexing project (batch) number: C01845-9
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1752154

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 8 May 2011 23:13

Is this the marriage you are looking at ?

Marriages Jun 1889 (>99%)
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COPE John Samuel Shardlow 7b 790
CROWSTON William Shardlow 7b 790
ELLIOTT Elizabeth Shardlow 7b 790
Smedley Eliza Shardlow 7b 790

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 8 May 2011 23:20

???

Eliza SMEDLEY Compact Disc #130 Pin #4550250 Pedigree
Sex: F

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Event(s)
Birth: abt 1865

Long Eaton, Derbyshire, ENGLAND

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Parents
Father: Joseph SMEDLEY Disc #130 Pin #4550248
Mother: Sarah Disc #130 Pin #4550249

Lynski

Lynski Report 8 May 2011 23:21

Can you give us names of John's children so that we can connect to him in later census?

Can you show details of the 1891 census you have found him in?

Lynski

Lynski Report 8 May 2011 23:22

????
Marriages Jun 1889 (>99%)
COPE John Samuel Shardlow 7b 790
CROWSTON William Shardlow 7b 790
ELLIOTT Elizabeth Shardlow 7b 790
Smedley Eliza Shardlow 7b 790


Deaths Jun 1891 (>99%)
Cope Eliza 24 Shardlow 7b 355


Is this John in 1901?

COPE, John Head Widower M 73 1828 Labourer Colour Manufy Spondon Derbyshire
COPE, John Son Single M 34 1867 Labourer Colour Manufy
Spondon Derbyshire
COPE, Henry Son Single M 32 1869 Gardener (Domestic) Spondon Derbyshire
PARR, Betty Grand Daughter Single F 20 1881 House Keeper
Earlstown Lancashire
RG number:
RG13 Piece:
3212 Folio:
135 Page:
3

Registration District:
Shardlow Sub District:
Spondon Enumeration District:
7 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Spondon St Werburghs

Civil Parish:
Spondon Municipal Borough:
Address:
50, Church Street Sant's Row, Spondon County:
Derbyshire

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 8 May 2011 23:22

May be a coincidence but there was a thread the other day about Cope of Ilkeston -- you might be interested:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1267414

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 8 May 2011 23:25

It seems to tally with 1901.

1901 England Census
Name: John S Cope
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza Cope
Gender: Male
Where born: Ilkeston, Derbyshire, England
Civil parish: Heanor
Ecclesiastical parish: Heanor
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Street Address - Queen St

Occupation - Employed Coke Washer

Registration district: Basford
Sub-registration district: Ilkeston
Piece: 3148
Folio: 69
Page Number: 29
Household Members:
Name Age
John S Cope 36
Eliza Cope 35
Betrice Cope 9
Ernest Cope 6
John W Cope 2


Births Dec 1891
Cope Beatrice Shardlow 7b 470

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 8 May 2011 23:29

For reference purposes

Is this your John Samuel in 1901???


1901 Census

Name: John S Cope
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza Cope
Gender: Male
Where born: Ilkeston, Derbyshire, England

Civil parish: Heanor
Ecclesiastical parish: Heanor
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Registration district: Basford
Sub-registration district: Ilkeston

John S Cope 36 Coke Washer
Eliza Cope 35 b.ca 1866, Stapleford, Nottinghamshire
Betrice Cope 9 b. Stapleford
Ernest Cope 6 b. Stapleford
John W Cope 2 b. Heaton





sylvia

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 8 May 2011 23:34

??

Eliza Smedley
England and Wales Census, 1881

birth 1865 —Stapleford, Nottinghamshire, England
residence 1881 —Long Eaton, Derbyshire, England
census 1881 —Long Eaton, Derbyshire, England
parents: Joseph Smedley, Sarah Smedley



Eliza Smedley
England and Wales Census, 1881

birth 1866 —Stapleford, Nottinghamshire, England
residence 1881 —Stapleford (Nottingham), Derbyshire, England
census 1881 —Stapleford (Nottingham), Derbyshire, England
parents: Mary A Smedley

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 8 May 2011 23:37

I can't find any 1891, let alone the one you're referring to. Can you put the 1891 details on here, please?

Ozi

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 8 May 2011 23:38

Derek would probably solve this in a minute


..... which board is his Derbyshire thread on now?

gatelady

gatelady Report 9 May 2011 00:55

well, thank you to all, din't expect to get so much response, !, will answer tomoz/day. a million thanks to all, pam :-)

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 9 May 2011 01:10

but we're still here, and could be finding more if you could only answer the questions asked of you!


please?!



sylvia

gatelady

gatelady Report 10 May 2011 20:22

i posted the 1891 census on here on 10 may, don't know what happened to it !! izybird and sylvia, you have the correct family thank you. 1891 census shows samuel cope b1863 as a boarder with his grandaughter bertha, at halls rd stapleton, derbyshire, head of household george gill.
i now know that i have the correct spouse for john samuel cope, thank you all for the information
pam.

Lynski

Lynski Report 10 May 2011 22:43

1891 census -

GILL, George Head Married M 50 1841 Labourer Miner
Borrowash Derbyshire
GILL, Mary Wife Married F 60 1831
Stapleford Nottinghamshire
COPE, Samuel Boarder Married M 27 1864 Coal Miner
Ilkeston Derbyshire
COPE, Eliza Daughter Married F 26 1865
Stapleford Nottinghamshire
COPE, Bertha Granddaughter F 1 1890
Stapleford Nottinghamshire
RG number
RG12 Piece
2725 Folio
108 Page
12

Registration District
Shardlow Sub District
Stapleford Enumeration District
23 Ecclesiastical Parish
Stapleford

Civil Parish
Stapleford Municipal Borough
Address
53, Halls Road, Stapleford County:
Derbyshire

gatelady

gatelady Report 11 May 2011 11:18

thank you for your help lynne, everything ties in now.
john s cope b 1863/5, spouse eliza smedley b 1865, eliza parents-joel smedley mary ann hallam, after the death of joel, mary ann remarried to george gill.
this family is now sorted thanks to all of you.

pam. :D :-)