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Frederick Simcock

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Kayak

Kayak Report 21 May 2011 18:38

I think that Ina was the daughter of Stanley and Lottie as she was born in the Sept Q 1930.
Stanley and Lottie were married in the Sept Q 1927
Eva Annie and Frederick were not married until the Dec Q 1930 (AFTER THE BIRTH OF INA SIMCOCK)

Kayak

Kayak Report 21 May 2011 18:27

Pauline,

Your grandfather and his twin brother were born in 1903, see Shirley's post above she says the year of birth was wrong on the death reg. also Jonsey has given you the birth reg above.
There is a this family of Townsends living in Leek Staffordshire in the 1911 census
Albert c1865
Charlotte c1867
Ellen May c1893
Gladys c1897
Lottie c1902
Eva Annie c1904

This may be your Townsend rellies

PollySalt

PollySalt Report 21 May 2011 17:56

Shirley I think you've solve a mystery for me, my grandfather had another brother,Stanley, who was married to a Lottie Townsend who I was getting mixed up and confused with.
Some where along the line I had gotten Fred married to Lottie and then I came to realize that he wasn't but am old friend of the family was insistent that it was a Townsend that Fred was married to, living family members just couldn't remember so I was stuck.
The name Eve/Eva came from somewhere but I cant remember where, and I didn't know that he had a child, I was so confused and stuck,
What you have found makes sense, do you think Lottie and Eve/Eva could have been sisters.
And as for the birth date of Christopher and Frederick as I mentioned in my post on my grandfather's Entry of Death Cert the 3 in the date 1903 had been crossed out and 4 written over the top of it. and as Christopher was 2 years younger than my grandmother who was born in 1902 1904 would be his and Frederick's correct birth date
To everyone who's helped me thank you so much, something that was driving me daft and taking ages took no time at all for you, you really are a clever bunch......thank you so much

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 21 May 2011 14:39

Staffordshire Birth indexes for the years: 1903
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
SIMCOCK Christopher Norton Newcastle-Under-Lyme NO/44/030

Staffordshire Birth indexes for the years: 1903
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
SIMCOCK Frederick Norton Newcastle-Under-Lyme NO/44/030

Norton is a sub-district of leek



for more background info see

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/trying_to_find/simcock/thread/1215748

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 21 May 2011 10:06

one daughter
Name: Ina Simcock b1930
Mother's Maiden Surname: Townsend





Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 21 May 2011 09:59

Name: Frederick Simcock
Spouse Surname: Townsend
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1930
Registration district: Leek
Registration county (inferred): Staffordshire
Volume Number: 6b
Page Number: 635
Find Spouse: Eva A Townsend


Name: Eva Annie Simcock
Birth Date: 28 Mar 1904
Date of Registration: Dec 1988
Age at Death: 84
Registration district: Staffordshire Moorlands
Registration County: Staffordshire
Volume: 30
Page: 1419

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 21 May 2011 09:57

same area
: SIMCOCK, Christopher
Registration District: Staffs Moors
County: Staffordshire
Year of Registration: 1976
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Date of Birth: 6 June 1904
Volume No: 30
Page No: 1087

So the year of birth is incorrect

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 21 May 2011 09:54

maybe
Name: SIMCOCK, Frederick
Registration District: Staffs Moors
County: Staffordshire
Year of Registration: 1980
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Date of Birth: 6 June 1903
Volume No: 30
Page No: 1189

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 21 May 2011 09:51

Births Sep 1903 (>99%)
SIMCOCK Christopher Leek 6b 316
SIMCOCK Frederick Leek 6b 316

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 21 May 2011 09:51

1911 census
SIMCOCK, William Head Married
21 years M 45 1866 Coal Miner Face Man Brown Edge Staffordshire VIEW
SIMCOCK, Ellen Wife Married F 43 1868 Stockton Brook Staffs VIEW
SIMCOCK, Miriam Daughter Single F 19 1892 Domestic Servant Beddley Green Staffs VIEW
SIMCOCK, Bertha Daughter Single F 17 1894 Beddley Green Staffs VIEW
SIMCOCK, Stanley Herbert Son M 12 1899 Stockton Brook Staffs VIEW
SIMCOCK, Fredrick Son M 7 1904 Stockton Brook Staffs VIEW
SIMCOCK, Christopher Son M 7 1904 Stockton Brook Staffs VIEW
SIMCOCK, Arthur Son M 4 1907 Stockton Brook Staffs VIEW
SIMCOCK, May Daughter F 2 1909 Stockton Brook Staffs VIEW
SIMCOCK, Humphrey Walter Son M 1 1910 Endon Staffs VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
16614 Reference:
RG14PN16614 RG78PN1027 RD362 SD1 ED2 SN66

Registration District:
Leek Sub District:
Norton Enumeration District:
2 Parish:
Norton in the Moors

Address:
Sandy Lane County:
Staffordshire

10 children 9 still living

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 21 May 2011 09:47

the births should be on FreeBMD

PollySalt

PollySalt Report 21 May 2011 09:45

Hi wonder if anyone can help I am trying to find information on Frederick Simcock who is the twin of my grandfather Christopher.
As Christopher and Frederick are twins I know the date of birth, 1903/4(on Christopher's death registration it has 1903 but the 3 has been amended to say 4) but only have Stoke-on-Trent,Staffordshire as place of birth(living rels cant remember the actual place), their parents being William and Ellen Simcock, I also know that Frederick was alive at the time of my grandfathers death in 1976
I would be greatfull for any info, birth, marriage or death.

Thank you