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Thomas Matthews c1829 in Bath

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Philip

Philip Report 22 May 2011 06:34

Hi all,
Thanks for your help!
Liz, I have now joined the Yahoo forum, will see what it turns up! Thanks for the tip.
Sylvia,
You have the right Thomas I am sure, he was convicted in 1844 & sent here on the Joseph Soames ,landing in Geelong 24 Sep 1847. Tony Cocks from Rootschat did a lot of work on the Parkhurst Prison boys, Thomas was one of them. I am trying to contact Tony to see if it is possible that Henry was a brother. I have made contact with a lady in UK, her Mary Ann Matthews was also in the Bath workhouse at the same time. Thomas named his first daughter Mary Ann.. May be coincidence? The Prison Governors log says
"Parents both dead. Father had been a soldier, lived at Bath after his discharge, died in 1836. Mother died in 1838. She left some money for a neighbour of hers to support Prisoner & his Brother. This person sent them to school and treated them kindly as long as the money lasted. Then she put them into the Union Workhouse. Prisoner remained there about 4 years. Ran away with some other boys, went to work on the railroad for nearly 3 years, earned 5/- a week, remained there till the work was finished, after which he was taken into the Bath Union again, was employed to work in the garden there. Had been at the National School and could read pretty well at the time. Was twice in prison for running away from the Workhouse. After his release the second time he was employed at a dairy for nearly 18 months. Had also been imprisoned 7 days for stealing a pair of books during which time the Chaplain of the Gaol became acquainted with him
& employed him as a servant. After his release from Prison, remained in Mr
Osbourn’s service twelve months the robbed his Master of a Watch and other articles was apprehended and tried at the Sessions, convicted & sentenced to 10 years Transportation."

His wedding cert in Melbourne does not show parents names for he or Mary Boyle, the Irish orphan he married. She was named on the certificate as Marion Boyle, other sources name her Mary O'Boyle! She signed Mary Boyle, so thats what I know her as.
Thanks fr your help members!

Phil

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 22 May 2011 01:30

Yu say you have a lot of information on his life in Austrlaia

Do you have his Marriage and/or Death certifcate(s)?

Those will show who he says are his parents

If you do not have one or the other, may I sugges tthat you obtain them



There are rather a lot of Thomas Matthews ............ it is not a very unusual name .... and knowing what those certificates say would be a very great help





sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 22 May 2011 01:28

Just to add the transportation information for possible aid to other helpers


Australian Convict Transportation Registers – Other Fleets & Ships, 1791-1868

Name: Thomas Matthews
Vessel: Joseph Somes
Convicted Date: 12 Jul 1844
Voyage Date: 2 Jun 1847
Colony: Van Dieman's Land
Place of Conviction: Somerset, England


Also on the Joseph Somes departing on 2 June 1847 was Henry Matthews, sentenced to Transportation at the Bath Sessions.

They surely couldn't be brothers could they???


England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892

Name: Henry Matthews
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Date of Trial: 11 Apr 1844
Trial Year: 1844
Location of Trial: Somerset, England
Sentence: Transportation
Crime: See Image
Date of Execution or Release: See Image

Charge:- Larceny, before convicted of felony
Sentence:- 10 Years transportation


???? possibly the previous conviction:-


England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892

Name: Henry Matthews
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Date of Trial: 28 Oct 1842
Trial Year: 1842
Location of Trial: Somerset, England
Sentence: Imprisonment
Crime: See Image
Date of Execution or Release: See Image

Charge:- Larceny, by Servant
Sentence:- 6 weeks Imprisonment



sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 22 May 2011 01:11

There are 2 Thomas Matthews shwoing on the 1841 ensus as living in the Bath area.

Both have parents.

Neither father is shown as a Soldier, or as possibly having been a Solider

One is a Licensed Victualer, the other is a Carpenter



sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 22 May 2011 01:09

Is this him?



England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892

Name: Thomas Matthews
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Date of Trial: 12 Jul 1844
Trial Year: 1844
Location of Trial: Somerset, England
Sentence: Transportation
Crime: See Image
Date of Execution or Release: See Image



Accused of Larceny before convicted of felony

Sentenced to 10 years transportation


and maybe this is the earlier conviction

England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892

Name: Thomas Matthews
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Date of Trial: 29 Dec 1841
Trial Year: 1841
Location of Trial: Somerset, England
Sentence: Imprisonment
Crime: See Image
Date of Execution or Release: See Image

At Bath City Sessions, 29th December 1841
Accused of Larceny
Sentence 1 Month Imprisonment



sylvia

Liz 47

Liz 47 Report 21 May 2011 23:34

Have you tried a search on this site or the IGI on familysearch.org. The members of the Somerset Family History Group are very helpful, address below,
Good luck,
Liz



[email protected]

Philip

Philip Report 21 May 2011 22:42

Hi, I am looking for info on Thomas, he was listed as an inmate of Parkhurst Prison & sent to Australia in1847. The Prison records say that hi parents were both dead, father used to be a soldier. I have a lot of info on his life in Australia, need to go back t his ancestors!
Thanks,, Phil