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Could someone who has access to FMP please help me to identify which of two possibilities is the correct one?

My g.uncle died during WW1 and during a visit to St. Symphorien Cemetery just outside Mons (we were researching my husband's relative at the time), I came across a headstone for JJ Shipp Middlesex Regiment. There is a commemoration book with an address that links this JJ Shipp to Edmonton where my Shipp ancestors lived. I thoiught therefore that I had found my great uncle's grave (although family legend has it that he died at sea).

Last night, while doing a general search of the FMP military records, I discovered 2 possibilities : one for Joseph John Ship b.Enfield (listed under the section Soldiers Died 1914-1919) and another for John J Shipp (died at sea 1942).

I am not sure if they are one and the same person as the surname was sometimes spelt SHIP and sometimes SHIPP and the second initial for the man who died at sea could stand for Joseph which makes it even more confusing.

If someone could have a more detailed look at these two entries, I would be most grateful.

Pamela, not able to look myself, but just wondering - didn't they die in different wars? So can't be the same person? Probably me getting the wrong end of the stick as usual!
Jan

can't see a J or J J Shipp on the CWGC site

Now I feel like Homer Simpson.....DOH such a birdbrain!!

False Alarm Everybody.....I'm going to have an early night

They are different men

Name: SHIPP, JOHN JAMES
Initials: J J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Able Seaman
Regiment/Service: Royal Navy
Unit Text: H.M.S. Tamar
Date of Death: 25/12/1941
Service No: C/JX 175282
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 83.
Memorial: CHATHAM NAVAL MEMORIAL

Name: SHIP
Initials: J J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Middlesex Regiment
Unit Text: 4th Bn.
Date of Death: 23/08/1914
Service No: L/14295
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: IV. A. 2.

Regards Jackie

Good idea, a couple of brandies recommended too. An advanced case of FTRB (famly tree researcher's brain) perhaps?? Just kidding!
Jan

Hi Pamela, before you retire, here are the details if Joseph J.

Soldiers Died in the Great War 1914-1919 - soldier details

Name: Joseph John SHIP

Rank: PRIVATE
Initials: J J
Birthplace: Enfield, Middlesex
Residence:
Enlisted: Ponders End, Middlesex
Regiment, Corps etc.: Duke of Cambridge's Own (Middlesex Regiment)
Battalion etc.: 4th Battalion.
4.8.14 Devonport: 8th Bde. 3rd Div. 14.8.14 landed at Boulogne. 14.11.15 to 63rd Bde. 21st Div. 8.7.16 63rd Bde. to 37th Div. 11.11.18 63rd Bde. 37th Div. France; moving to Caudry, S.W. of Solesmes.
Number: L/14295
Date died: 23 August 1914
How died: Killed in action
Theatre of war: France & Flanders

Ann of Green Gables: There is definitely a headstone in the cemetery at St. Symphorien. I took a photograph of it which I will look at later. This particular cemetery was built by the Germans after the Battle of Mons in August 1914 and there are only about 600 graves in total, one section of which consists of German soldiers who died at the same battle.

Thanks Jacqueline and thanks Alviegal for the extra information. He is the Middlesex Regiment one, Private JJ Ship L/14295 CWG grave number IV.A.2.

I knew he was there!

I'm now off to have that brandy Brummiejan.....might as well have a good reason for a fuzzy head eh?

wonder why I can't see him on the CWGC - lots of other Shipp's on there!!!

Hi Ann of Green Gables,

definitely on CWGC site