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Ogden

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Glenys

Glenys Report 25 May 2011 15:38

Yes he did marry Annie Cooper in 1930 so I take it they were his sons from his second marriage
Thank you very much

Astra

Astra Report 25 May 2011 13:18

William's second marriage to Annie Cooper in 1930 maybe. It would have been helpful if you had said initially that there was a second marriage.

Marriages Jun 1930 (>99%)
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Baines Joseph Yearsley Salford 8d 858
>>Cooper Annie Ogden Salford 8d 858
>>Ogden William Cooper Salford 8d 858
Yearsley Amy Baines Salford 8d 858


William's birth

Births Sep 1930 (>99%)
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Ogden William Cooper Salford 8d 431


and George with a mistake in mother's maiden name

Births Sep 1932 (>99%)
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Ogden George E Coper Salford 8d 345

Glenys

Glenys Report 25 May 2011 10:51

Gertrude was born in 1888 I am helping Mary's daughter with her family tree and it is the sons that we are stuck on I have Gertrude's parent and siblings and also Williams parents and siblings but they did divorce and William remarried about 1930 I thought maybe they were sons from that marriage but have not found anything yet I will check if William had bee married before

Astra

Astra Report 24 May 2011 21:04

I'm wondering if this is Gertrude in 1911. She is a maid at the
Queens Hotel in Manchester. Mistranscribed as Weadon. On the original it could be Headon.

WEADON, Gerty Servant Single F 22 1889 Domestic Servant Salford

patchem

patchem Report 24 May 2011 20:36

Could they be from a first marriage of William, before marrying Gertrude?
That is why I asked if you had the wedding certificate to see if he was a bachelor at that marriage.

Also, was Gertrude born 1882 or 1888?
Thanks

Astra

Astra Report 24 May 2011 20:33

Gertrude Headon
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Arthur Headon
Mother's name: Mary J Headon
Gender: Female
Where born: Salford, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Salford
Ecclesiastical parish: St Philip
Town: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Household Members: Name Age
Arthur Headon 30
Mary J Headon 28
Olive Headon 6
Herbert Headon 5
Gertrude Headon 3
Fred Headon 7/12
Ann Greece 56

Glenys

Glenys Report 24 May 2011 20:28

Their father died in 1966 and they were named in the will He was William Ogden born 1890 in Salford Manchester

patchem

patchem Report 24 May 2011 20:22

How do you know they were her children?
Have you got her marriage certificate?
Thanks

Added
Deaths Mar 1917
Ogden James P 2 Salford 8d 217

Glenys

Glenys Report 24 May 2011 20:21

Have searched every where for the births of William and George cannot find them

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 24 May 2011 20:20

??


1901 England Census
about Gertrude Headon
Name: Gertrude Headon
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Daughter
Mother's name: Lizzie Headon
Gender: Female
Where born: Salford, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Salford
Ecclesiastical parish: Ordsall in Salford St Clement
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Salford
Sub-registration district: Regent Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 43
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 160
Piece: 3737
Folio: 84
Page Number: 24
Household Members:
Name Age
Lizzie Headon 40 (Married)
Gertrude Headon 18
Ophelia Headon 17
Christopher Headon 12
Jane Jackson 79 (Boarder)



1911 census - household transcription
Person: HEADON, Lizzie
Address: 20 Clement St Broughton Salford

TAYLOR, George Henry Head Married M 29 1882 Machine Tool Fitter Lancs Manchester VIEW
TAYLOR, Ophelia Wife Married
3 years F 27 1884 Lancs Manchester VIEW
HEADON, Lizzie Mother-In-Law Widow F 50 1861 Lancs Manchester VIEW
HEADON, Christopher Brother-In-Law Single M 22 1889 Electrical Test Clerk Lancs Manchester VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
23984 Reference:
RG14PN23984 RG78PN1382 RD465 SD2 ED8 SN356

Registration District:
Salford Sub District:
Broughton Enumeration District:
8 Parish:
Broughton

Address:
20 Clement St Broughton Salford County:
Lancashire

patchem

patchem Report 24 May 2011 20:20

When do you think William and George were born, as not showing on free bmd?

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 24 May 2011 20:18

??

Births Sep 1882 (>99%)
Headon Gertrude Salford 8d 123

Astra

Astra Report 24 May 2011 20:17

Is this her death?

Gertrude Ogden
Birth Date: abt 1888
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1964
Age at Death: 76
Registration district: Wirral
Inferred County: Cheshire
Volume: 10a
Page: 602

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 24 May 2011 20:15

Gertrudes marriage..........


Marriages Sep 1912 (>99%)
Headon Gertrude Ogden Salford 8d 330
Ogden William Headon Salford 8d 330

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 24 May 2011 20:14

Hello Glenys - you can search for their births and marriages on FreeBMD - http://www.freebmd.org.uk

Glenys

Glenys Report 24 May 2011 20:14

Headon was her maiden name Sorry should have put that down

patchem

patchem Report 24 May 2011 20:12

Was Ogden Gertrude's married or maiden name?
Thanks

Astra

Astra Report 24 May 2011 20:12

So she was Gertrude Headon before she married??

She married William Ogden in 1912

Marriages Sep 1912 (>99%)
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Ogden William Headon Salford 8d 330


There are these 3 births listed

Births Jun 1913 (>99%)
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Ogden Margaret Headon Salford 8d 258

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Births Mar 1915 (99%)
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Ogden James P Headon Salford 8d 253

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Births Dec 1917 (>99%)
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Ogden Mary Headon Salford 8d 214

Glenys

Glenys Report 24 May 2011 20:03

I am looking for any information on a William and George Ogden do not know when they were born but probably Salford their mother was Gertrude Ogden born 1888 in Salford Manchester there were two sisters Margaret b.1913 and Mary b.1917 in Salford Gertrude came to live in Middlewich Cheshire in the early 1900's
Glenys