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25 May 2011 22:18 |
Hi is it possible for someone to check a wills & probate record for me of Thomas Charlton Havelock b-1815 death 1890 in northumberland thankyou
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25 May 2011 22:26 |
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations),1861-1941 about Thomas Charlton Havelock Name: Thomas Charlton Havelock Probate Date: 22 Nov 1890 Death Date: 16 Mar 1890 Death Place: Northumberland, England Registry: Newcastle-Upon-Tyne
Personal Estate £1,107 1s 11d
The will with a codicil of T C Havelock late of Riding Mill in the parish of Bywell St Andrew in the county of Northumberland Farmer who died 16 March at Riding Mill was proved at Newcastle upon Tyne by Michael Havelock of 14 Akenside Hill, in the city of Newcastle Merchant the brother and Thomas Havelock of 11 Wallace Terrace Ryton in the County of Durham Agent John Havelock of 70 Osborne Rd Newcastle Coal Fitter and George Anthony Havelock of 12 Mather St Newcastle Merchant the Nephews the executors.
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25 May 2011 22:44 |
Thanks alviegal i forgot about his brother micheal who was a "russian merchant" whatever that means As none of the siblings married Micheal was the last survivor so who did he leave his esate to He died 1912 in northumberland is it possible to check that one for me I have noticed you added to reply about nephews John and Geoge Anthony we did not know there was any children or even a marriage in the family. Gives us something else to look for regards makem
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25 May 2011 23:07 |
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25 May 2011 23:40 |
Is this the one?
Michael Havelock Probate Date: 29 Jul 1912 Death Date: 24 Jun 1912 Death Place: Northumberland, England Registry: Newcastle-Upon-Tyne
Havelock Michael of Bridge Hill House Riding Mill Northumberland gentleman died 24 June 1912 Probate Newcastle-upon-Tyne 29 July to Michael Havelock gentleman Effects £24135 5s.
There is another Micheal Havelock who may or may not be relevant
Michael Havelock Probate Date: 9 Jul 1913 Death Date: 1 Jun 1913 Death Place: Northumberland, England Registry: Newcastle-Upon-Tyne
Will get those details in a minute.
Just because someone has been granted Probate, it doesn't necessarily mean that they were a beneficiary - you'd need to purchase the Will to see the full details.
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25 May 2011 23:45 |
Details for the 1913 Michael Havelock
Havelock Michael of Rockliffe Linden Raod Gosforth Nothumberland consulting engineer died 1 June 1913 Probate Newcastle-upon-Tyne 9 July to William John HAvelock shipbuilder. Effects £12980 4s 9d
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25 May 2011 23:53 |
thanks detEcTive the first one is the right micheal who died June 24 1912 (we have a photograph of the family gravestone) leaving £24135 whic was a fortune then. I wish some was passed down our way
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26 May 2011 00:02 |
Wonder who frittered it away? Lol.
if you wanted to buy the Will explore this site
http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/cms/1226.htm
It gives the address for applications as Postal Searches and Copies Department C/o York Probate Sub-Registry 1st Floor, Castle Chambers Clifford Street York YO1 9RG
Although the site says it costs £5, someone on GR has said it now cost £6. Best to check.
NB - gave you the 2nd Michael Havelock as the 1st Michael H mentioned a 2nd by the same name! There are quite a few Havelocks in the area who left Wills!!!
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26 May 2011 06:49 |
Hi detective the micheal havelock who died 24-06-1912 aged 90, is definately my wifes ancester cant find a link to the one died 1913 been quizzing her in doors about where shes stashed the cash His father was also called micheal but died 1828 thanks for your help
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26 May 2011 11:13 |
This appears to be George Anthony in 1891, same address.
HAVELOCK, Ann Head Widow F 75 1816 Warkworth Northumberland VIEW HUNTER, Margaret Daughter Widow F 41 1850 Newcastle Northumberland VIEW HAVELOCK, George A Son Single M 35 1856 Produce Merchant Newcastle Northumberland VIEW RG number: RG12 Piece: 4195 Folio: 52 Page: 37 Registration District: Newcastle upon Tyne Sub District: Westgate Enumeration District: 23 Ecclesiastical Parish: St Stephens Civil Parish: Elswick Municipal Borough: Newcastle on Tyne Address: 12, Mather Street, Elswick, Newcastle On Tyne County: Northumberland
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HAVELOCK, William Head Married M 62 1819 Retired Engine Smith Riding Mill Northumberland VIEW HAVELOCK, Ann Wife Married F 65 1816 Amble Northumberland VIEW HAVELOCK, George A Son Single M 25 1856 Managing Clerk Chem Merch Newcastle on Tyne Northumberland VIEW RG number: RG11 Piece: 5051 Folio: 80 Page: 29 Registration District: Newcastle upon Tyne Sub District: Westgate Enumeration District: Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: Elswick Municipal Borough: Address: 12, Mather St, Elswick County: Northumberland
1911. Image does read Anthony not Armstrong.
HUNTER, Margaret Head Widow F 61 1850 Private Means Newcastle on Tyne VIEW [You have previously viewed this record] HAVELOCK, George Armstrong Brother Single M 55 1856 Merchant Import Newcastle on Tyne VIEW [You have previously viewed this record] PEARSON, Mary Servant Single F 28 1883 Domestic Servant General Scotswood on Tyne VIEW [You have previously viewed this record] RG number: RG14 Piece: 30804 Reference: RG14PN30804 RG78PN1760 RD559 SD4 ED10 SN146 Registration District: Tynemouth Sub District: Whitley Enumeration District: 10 Parish: Monkseaton Address: Healeywood Queen's Road Monkseaton Newcastle on Tyne County: Northumberland
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26 May 2011 11:22 |
This is John in 1891.
HAVELOCK, John Head Married M 46 1845 Coal Fitter & Shipbuildings Coy Newcastle on Tyne VIEW HAVELOCK, Emma Wife Married F 34 1857 Newcastle on Tyne VIEW HAVELOCK, Sydney Son M 8 1883 Scholar Winlaton Durham VIEW HAVELOCK, Madga Daughter F 7 1884 Scholar Winlaton Durham VIEW FRAYER, Sarah Servant Single F 27 1864 Cook Domestic Servant Newcastle on Tyne VIEW GLENDENNING, Margaret Servant Single F 21 1870 Housemaid Domestic Servant Winlaton Durham VIEW RG number: RG12 Piece: 4219 Folio: 5 Page: 3 Registration District: Newcastle upon Tyne Sub District: Byker Enumeration District: 50 Ecclesiastical Parish: St George Civil Parish: Jesmond Municipal Borough: Newcastle upon Tyne Address: 70, Osborne Road, Jesmond, Newcastle, Newcastle Upon Tyne County: Northumberland
Possible with parents in 1871. He is a clerk in a coal office.
HAVELOCK, William Head M 52 1819 Northumberland VIEW HAVELOCK, Ann Wife F 55 1816 Northumberland VIEW HAVELOCK, John Son M 26 1845 Northumberland VIEW HAVELOCK, Thomas Son M 23 1848 Northumberland VIEW HAVELOCK, Margaret Daughter F 21 1850 Northumberland VIEW HAVELOCK, William Son M 19 1852 Northumberland VIEW HAVELOCK, George A Son M 15 1856 Northumberland VIEW RG number: RG10 Piece: 5072 Folio: 47 Page: 18 Registration District: Newcastle upon Tyne Sub District: Westgate Enumeration District: 8 Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: Westgate Municipal Borough: Newcastle on Tyne Address: Villa Place, Westgate, Newcastle On Tyne County: Northumberland
and 1911. He seems to have done very well for himself.
HAVELOCK, John Head Widower M 66 1845 Coal - Fitter And Secretary Coal Trade Newcastle on Tyne Northumberland VIEW HAVELOCK, Sydney Son Single M 28 1883 School Medical Officer Ryton on Tyne Winlationm Parish Co Durham VIEW GATESON, Isabella Servant Widow F 71 1840 Housekeeper Gosforth Nortumberland VIEW FORSTER, Emily Jane Servant Widow F 23 1888 Domestic Servant Housemaid Winlation Parish Co Durham VIEW WILSON, Sarah Servant Widow F 21 1890 Cook Domestic Servant Newcastle Northumberland VIEW PRESTON, William Visitor Widow M 23 1888 Engineer Newcastle Northumberland VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 30701 Reference: RG14PN30701 RG78PN1756 RD558 SD6 ED45 SN95 Registration District: Newcastle upon Tyne Sub District: Byker Enumeration District: 45 Parish: Heaton Address: Eastwood Jesmond Park East County: Northumberland
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26 May 2011 11:28 |
And Thomas in 1891.
HAVELOCK, Thomas Head Married M 43 1848 Merchant Newcastle on Tyne VIEW HAVELOCK, Jane A Wife Married F 44 1847 Newcastle on Tyne VIEW DAGLISH, Elizabeth Servant Single F 25 1866 Domestic Servant Blaydon Durham VIEW RG number: RG12 Piece: 4190 Folio: 59 Page: 12 Registration District: Gateshead Sub District: Winlaton Enumeration District: 14 Ecclesiastical Parish: Holy Cross Civil Parish: Ryton Municipal Borough: Address: 11, Wallace Terrace, Ryton County: Durham
and 1861. They are all sons of William and Ann.
HAVELOCK, William Head Married M 42 1819 Engine Smith Bywell Northumberland VIEW HAVELOCK, Ann Wife Married F 45 1816 Northumberland VIEW HAVELOCK, Micheal Son Unmarried M 17 1844 Engine Fitter Newcastle VIEW HAVELOCK, John Son Unmarried M ? ... Newcastle VIEW HAVELOCK, Thomas Son M 13 1848 Clerk Metal Broker Newcastle VIEW HAVELOCK, Margaret Daughter F 11 1850 Scholar Newcastle VIEW HAVELOCK, William Son M 9 1852 Scholar Newcastle VIEW HAVELOCK, George A Son M 5 1856 Newcastle VIEW RG number: RG09 Piece: 3816 Folio: 62 Page: 54 Registration District: Newcastle-Upon-Tyne Sub District: 1 Westgate Enumeration District: 24 Ecclesiastical Parish: St Pauls High Elswick Civil Parish: Elswick Municipal Borough: Newcastle Address: 9, Sycamore Street West, Elswick, Newcastle County: Northumberland
Thomas has died by 1901. His widow Jane Ann leaves her money to William John,shipbroker, son of George, mentioned above as dying in 1913. They all seem to connect up along the way.
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26 May 2011 13:51 |
Thanks again alviegal been back on family tree and f/search they are all descendants from Thomas Havelock's marriage in 1791 to Margaret Charlton in Woodhorn Northumberland It is turning out to be a massive family regards makem
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