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Hi, how do I search for people incoming on ships? My great-great grandfather Thomas Mullane was born in India in c1871 and was living in Ellesmere Port in 1911 according to the census.
Can I find out when he came to England?
He was somewhat dark skinned with dark hair, would being born in India mean he was necessarily part indian?
How common was it at the time to have mixed parentage?

Any help much appreciated.

Ruth

Would he have been travelling with anyone? Names of parents, siblings and wife might help

There is this one but no other info really that would help?


UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
about Thomas Mullane Name: Thomas Mullane Labourer
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: 19 Jun 1910
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Ship Name: Caronia
Search Ship Database: View the 'Caronia' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Cunard Line
Official Number: 120826

Maybe his father was in the Army and staitoned in india.Have you found his parents on any census?

Is this his death....did he have a middle name?


England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about Thomas A Mullane Name: Thomas A Mullane
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1912
Age at Death: 41
Registration district: Wirral
Inferred County: Cheshire
Volume: 8a
Page: 600 (click to see others on page)

This looks like a 'possible' ?

Name: Thomas Alfred Mullane
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 17 Oct 1870
Baptism/Christening Place: Lucknow, Bengal, India
Birth Date: 12 Sep 1870

Father's Name: Thomas Mullane
Mother's Name: Ellen

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C75022-2
System Origin: India-ODM
Source Film Number: 499040
Reference Number:
Collection: null

Dea x

Possible siblings?

Name: Anne Helena Maude Mullane
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 30 Nov 1871
Baptism/Christening Place: Lucknow Bengal India
Birth Date: 08 Oct 1871
Birthplace: Lucknow, Bengal, India

Father's Name: Thomas Mullane
Mother's Name: Ellen

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C75022-6
System Origin: India-ODM
Source Film Number: 499044
Reference Number:
Collection: India Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947

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Name: George Lewis Mullane
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 11 Jun 1873
Baptism/Christening Place: Bengal, India
Birth Date: 12 Apr 1873
Birthplace: Bengal, India

Father's Name: Thomas Mallane
Mother's Name: Ellen

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C75023-3
System Origin: India-ODM
Source Film Number: 499050
Reference Number:
Collection: India Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947

Dea x

Thank you so much everyone.
Does it sound like his parents Thomas and Ellen were British?
Were his parents born in India?

Does the fact that the record of his baptism has been kept mean that his father was in the army and a British Citizen?

These look like his Service Records on FMP ?

British Army Service Records 1760-1913
First name(s): Thomas Alfred

Last name: MULLANE

Calculated year of birth: 1869

Parish of birth: Lucknow

Town of birth: Lucknow

County of birth: Bengal Presidency

Age at attestation: 20 years

Attestation date: 21 December 1889

Attestation corps: Royal Welsh Fusiliers

Attestation soldier number: 2666

Discharge rank:

Discharge corps:

Discharge soldier number:

The National Archives reference: WO97 / 5558 / 173

Dea x

His records show that he had been a Printer ? for 2 years at the 'Railway Shops'.

His religion was C of E.

There is an address for his mother which is crossed out and very hard to read but it looks ssomething like:

Mrs. Ellen Mullane
GO (c o?) Cuplar Dubisson Lincoln Regt.
Luknow, Bengal
(So it does look as though his father was in the army?)

He served in India and South Africa and was discharged in Wrexham around 1902 and was going to live at 2 Lime St., Ellesmere Port.

Dea x

This looks good for his parent's marriage:

Groom's Name: Thomas Mullane
Groom's Birth Date: 1847
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age: 22
Bride's Name: Ellen Grey
Bride's Birth Date: 1854
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age: 15
Marriage Date: 03 Dec 1869
Marriage Place: Lucknow, Bengal, India

Groom's Father's Name: Cornelius Mullane
Bride's Father's Name: George William Grey


Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M75024-5
System Origin: India-EASy
Source Film Number: 499036
Reference Number:

My, she WAS a young bride !!!!!!!!

Dea x

Wow, she certainly was young! Though I have heard of very young marriages happening in India.
The name Grey doesn't sound asian, I wonder if they were what was called British Indian which was mixed race.
If any of you saw Who do you think you are by the BBC, the episode with Alistair McGowan explored the history of being british asian in the 1800's, it was very good.
Men in the British Army were encouraged to marry Indian girls in the early 1800's to provide long term community stability, but by approx. 1900 it was discouraged again when India had internal battles.

You are all so helpful and kind here.

Hi Ruth,

I assume you have Thomas's wife Alice and their daughter on 1911, living with the man who she later married?

Also the details of Thomas's will where he left what money he had to the Seamen's mission?

Let me know if not.

Dea x

No I havent seen his will, where would I find that info?

Hi Ruth,

It was just a probate record I found on Ancestry:

MULLANE Thomas Alfred of 19 Queen-street Ellesmere Port
near Chester labourer died 14th March 1912 Probate
Chester 26 March to Arthur Baguley missioner.
Effects £21.

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I looked him up on 1911:

BAGULEY, Arthur Head Married M 43 1868 Missioner To Seaman Staffordshire Shelton VIEW
BAGULEY, Catherine Wife Married F 40 1871 Cheshire Rock Ferry VIEW
TAYLOR, Cyril Jeffery Boarder Single M 24 1887 Engineer In Rolling Mills Yorkshire Rotherham VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
21921 Reference:
RG14PN21921 RG78PN1305 RD451 SD2 ED8 SN118

Registration District:
Wirral Sub District:
Eastham Enumeration District:
8 Parish:
Ellesmere Port

Address:
26 Church St Ellesmere Port County:
Cheshire

Dea x
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Thanks very much.