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Vicky
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27 May 2011 13:08 |
I am finding this person very confusing I have her married to Arnold Utting who was born 1877. They got married in Edmonton 1897. But there are so many people who have differrent fathers for her I have Edward and Elizabeth Burkinshaw as her parents, but my 1st cousin has John and Elizabeth but she dosent remember where she got this info from. I know the best way to make sure is to buy the marriage cert. which I will do but just wondered if you kind people might be able to help.
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brummiejan
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27 May 2011 13:13 |
Just for a bit of confirmation!
UTTING, Arnold Head Married M 33 1878 Coal Porter Holloway London VIEW UTTING, Louisa Wife Married 14 years F 35 1876 Barnsbury London VIEW UTTING, Arnold William Son M 13 1898 School Wood Green London VIEW UTTING, Frederick John Son M 9 1902 Hammersmith London VIEW UTTING, Amy Mary Louisa Daughter F 7 1904 Hammersmith London VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 97 Reference: RG14PN97 RG78PN4 RD2 SD1 ED11 SN274 Registration District: Kensington Sub District: Kensington South Enumeration District: 11 Parish: Kensington Address: 27 Johnson Street Kensington W County: London
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brummiejan
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27 May 2011 13:18 |
This must be the one your relative is looking at
1891 England Census
Name: Louisa Birkenshaw Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876 Relation: Daughter Father's name: John Birkenshaw Mother's name: Eliza Birkenshaw Gender: Female Where born: Deptford, Kent, England Civil parish: St Paul Deptford Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Greenwich Sub-registration district: St Paul Deptford
John Birkenshaw 50 Eliza Birkenshaw 51 Thomas Birkenshaw 25 James Birkenshaw 18 Louisa Birkenshaw 15 Alice Birkenshaw 9
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27 May 2011 13:19 |
Marriage?
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Mar 1897 (>99%) Burkinshaw Louisa Edmonton 3a 466 Richardson William Lucas Edmonton 3a 466 Utting Arnold Edmonton 3a 466 Webber Elizabeth Edmonton 3a 466
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MaureeninNY
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27 May 2011 13:22 |
If the 1891 posted by Jan is the "other" Louisa,I think this is her marriage: London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Louisa Birkenshaw Name: Louisa Birkenshaw Age: 24 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875 Spouse Name: James Butcher Spouse Age: 29 Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 30 Oct 1899 Parish: St Barnabas, Rotherhithe County: Surrey Borough: Southwark Father Name: John Birkenshaw Spouse Father Name: Mark Butcher
Maureen
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brummiejan
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27 May 2011 13:22 |
And this is her 1901 (interesting mis-transcriptions!!)
1901 England Census
Name: Louisa Utting Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Anner Utting Gender: Female Where born: Holloway, London, England Civil parish: Hammersmith Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch West Kensington Park and St Matthew County/Island: London
Registration district: Fulham Sub-registration district: South Hammersmith (including Starch Green) ED, institution, or vessel: 27 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 315 Piece: 49 Folio: 137 Page Number: 40 Household Members: Name Age Anner Utting 23 Louisa Utting 25 Amoed W Utting 3
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Barbara
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27 May 2011 13:22 |
1881 census Name: Louisa Birkenshaw Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877 Relation: Daughter Father's name: John Birkenshaw Mother's name: Eliza Birkenshaw Gender: Female Where born: Deptford, Kent, England Civil parish: Deptford St Paul County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 14 Windmill Lane Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Greenwich Sub-registration district: St Paul Deptford ED, institution, or vessel: 28 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 707 Folio: 27 Page Number: 11 Household Members: Name Age John Birkenshaw 40 Eliza Birkenshaw 41 John Birkenshaw 16 Thos. Birkenshaw 14 Jas. Birkenshaw 7 Rose Birkenshaw 13 Louisa Birkenshaw 4 William Evans 56 Thos. Jones 60
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MaureeninNY
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27 May 2011 13:24 |
The "other" one again :
1901 census transcription details for: 3, Hanlon Street, St Paul Deptford
RG number: RG13 Piece: 525 Folio: 26 Page: 44
Reg. District: Greenwich Sub District: Deptford North Parish: St Paul Deptford Enum. District: 11 Ecclesiastical District: St Luke City/Municipal Borough: Address: 3, Hanlon Street, St Paul Deptford County: London BUTCHER, James Head Married M 26 1875 Crane Driver Deptford London BUTCHER, Louisa Wife Married F 25 1876 Deptford London BUTCHER, James Son M 0 (7 MOS) 1901 Deptford London BIRKENSHAW, Thomas Brother-In-Law Single M 36 1865 Coal Porter Deptford London BIRKENSHAW, James Brother-In-Law Single M 26 1875 Coal Porter Deptford London Maureen
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Barbara
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27 May 2011 13:29 |
1881 census Name: Louisa Burkinshaw Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876 Relation: Daughter Father's name: William Burkinshaw Mother's name: Lizzie Burkinshaw Gender: Female Where born: Islington, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Islington County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 42 Gifford St Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Islington Sub-registration district: Islington West ED, institution, or vessel: 43 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 237 Folio: 83 Page Number: 33 Household Members: Name Age William Burkinshaw 26 Lizzie Burkinshaw 25 Lizzie Burkinshaw 7 Louisa Burkinshaw 5 Martha Burkinshaw 4 Mary A. Burkinshaw 2
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MaureeninNY
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27 May 2011 13:30 |
This is the one you think is yours ?
1891 census transcription details for: 2, Western Road, Tottenham
RG number: RG12 Piece: 1078 Folio: 76 Page: 17
Reg. District: Edmonton Sub District: Tottenham Parish: Tottenham Enum. District: 35 Ecclesiastical District: St Michaels City/Municipal Borough: Address: 2, Western Road, Tottenham County: Middlesex BURKINSHAW, Edward W Head Married M 37 1854 General Labourer Islington London BURKINSHAW, Elizabeth Wife Married F 35 1856 Bristol Gloucestershire BURKINSHAW, Elizabeth Daughter F 17 1874 Factory Girl Islington London BURKINSHAW, Louise Daughter F 15 1876 Factory Girl Islington London BURKINSHAW, Martha Daughter F 13 1878 Scholar Islington London BURKINSHAW, Mary A Daughter F 12 1879 Scholar Islington London BURKINSHAW, Edward W T Son M 9 1882 Scholar Islington London BURKINSHAW, Jannie E Daughter F 7 1884 Scholar Islington London BURKINSHAW, Henry Son M 5 1886 Scholar Islington London BURKINSHAW, Charles E Son M 3 1888 Scholar Islington London
Maureen
Edit: Oops,sorry,Barbara-overlapped a bit there.
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MaureeninNY
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27 May 2011 13:45 |
Looks good to me !!!
1901 census transcription details for: 11, Rodney Place, Clerkenwell RG number: RG13 Piece: 252 Folio: 11 Page: 13
Reg. District: Holborn Sub District: Amwell Parish: Clerkenwell Enum. District: 6 Ecclesiastical District: All Saints Caledonian Road City/Municipal Borough: Address: 11, Rodney Place, Clerkenwell County: London
BURKINSHAW, William Head Widower M 46 1855 Plasterer Islington London BURKINSHAW, Jane Daughter Single F 17 1884 Islington London BURKINSHAW, Harry Son Single M 15 1886 Baker Islington London BURKINSHAW, Charles Son M 13 1888 Islington London BURKINSHAW, Charlotte Daughter F 9 1892 Wood Green Middlesex
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Charlotte Burkenshaw Name: Charlotte Burkenshaw Age: 27 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892 Spouse Name: Benjamin Templeman Spouse Age: 35 Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 08 Jun 1919 Parish: St Silas, Pentonville County: London Borough: Islington Father Name: Edward William Burkenshaw Occ:Plasterer Spouse Father Name: Samuel Templeman
One of the witnesses was Arnold William Utting.
Maureen
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Vicky
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27 May 2011 19:37 |
Thankyou for all this info I really appreciate it. The 1891 Census looks great it matches what I say and then the 1901 Census is great I will do some more looking into it all.
Thankyou ;-)
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