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thanks all , ths all ties in,as i had robert 1816, mother rachel did not know of any other inormation,,about hogg or hagg, rachel was unmarried when she had robert 1816. thanks ,all your work apprecieated ed

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Robert Caris
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 23 Jun 1816
Baptism/Christening Place: HUSTHWAITE WITH CARLTON,YORK,ENGLAND
Mother's Name: Rachel Caris
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C10926-1
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 9910761841 England Census

1841
Robert Cariss
Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Gender: Male
Civil parish: Craike Hundred: Stockton (South West Division)
County/Island: Durham Country: England
Registration district: Easingwold
Sub-registration district: Easingwold
Piece: 317 Book: 4 Folio: 13 Page Number: 20

Robert Cariss 25 not local
Mary Cariss 20 not local


Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 317; Book: 4; Civil Parish: Craike; County: Durham; Enumeration District: 5; Folio: 13; Page: 20; Line: 25; GSU roll: 241357.

So either Rachel Cariss is not actually a grand-daughter, or Rachel Hogg had a child before she married John. And that would fit in with the relatively late marriage.

Births Mar 1842
CARISS Rachel Easingwold 24 355

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Rachel Carus
Baptism/Christening Date: 20 Mar 1842
Baptism/Christening Place: Craike, York, England
Father's Name: Robert Carus
Mother's Name: Mary
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I04504-3
System Origin: England-EASy Source Film Number: 2105068
Reference Number: item 7 p 62

You're right Patchem. Well spotted! Trying to find her mother to see if I can find them in 1841 but no luck so far.

In that 1851 census the granddaughter is probably Rachel Cariss.

Possible death for John.

Civil Registration event: Death
Name: HOGG, John
Registration District: Easingwold
County: Yorkshire
Year of Registration: 1837
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Volume No: 24
Page No: 172

Your lady in 1851 for reference.

HOGG, Rachel Head Widow F 70 1781 Ag Lab Pauper
Craike
Yorkshire VIEW
CROSS, Rachel Grand Daughter F 9 1842 Scholar
Craike
Yorkshire VIEW
RG number:
HO107 Piece:
2370 Folio:
122 Page:
31

Registration District:
Easingwold Sub District:
Easingwold Enumeration District:
1 Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Craike Municipal Borough:
Address:
Craike County:
Yorkshire (North riding)

From familysearch, is this her marriage?

England Marriages, 1538–1973 for Rachel Cariss


Groom's Name: John Hagg
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Rachel Cariss
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 12 Mar 1823
Marriage Place: Craike, York, England
Groom's Father's Name:
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name:
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
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Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I04504-4
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 2105068
Reference Number: 11


Rachel's birth? She seems to be pretty old for a first marriage, not unknown I know.

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 for Rachael Cariss.

Name: Rachael Cariss
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 09 Mar 1780
Baptism/Christening Place: Craike, York, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Robert Cariss
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Mary
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I04504-0
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 2105068
Reference Number: item 5 p 12

hi i think mr hogg married rachel cariss she was c1780 married c 1800 trying to find hogg family thanks ed

I think you need to put who you have found in 1740, and how you got there?

sorry i miss typed, should have been c1740 for hogg, apologise ed

This family?
1851 England Census
John Hogg
Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819
Relation: Nephew Gender: M (Male) Where born: Craike, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Craike County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England
Occupation: carpenter
Registration district: Easingwold
Sub-registration district: Stillington
ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Household schedule number: 76
Piece: 2370 Folio: 115 Page Number: 17

Charles Hogg 71 carpenter Balham Bishoprig
John Hogg 32
Mary Hogg 28
Elizabeth Hogg 6
Charles Hogg 2

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2370; Folio: 115; Page: 17; GSU roll: 87653.

Perhaps you could be more specific Edwin as to who exactly you are trying to find information about.

any information, on hogg family living in crayke or surrounding area yotkshire. c1840 apprecieated ed