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Thomas Carpenter 1866 - 1911

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Vicky

Vicky Report 28 May 2011 21:47

I have Thomas Carpenter I have his birth in 1866 I know he married Caroline but dont know her maiden name there daughter Lucy B M Carpenter was my Gt Grandmother she was born 16 /08/1900.

I am trying to find his wifes maiden name I believe they got married around 1889-1890 as the 1st child was born in 1890 (Thomas Carpenter)

They are from London I believe it is Lambeth.

Thankyou

alviegal

alviegal Report 28 May 2011 21:50

Any good?

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Thomas Carpenter
Name: Thomas Carpenter, painter of 29 Chester St
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Spouse Name: Caroline Swetman
Spouse Age: 22
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 25 Nov 1888
Parish: St Philip
County: Surrey
Borough: Lambeth
Father Name: Henry Carpenter, engineer
Spouse Father Name: Joseph Chamber, boot maker

William and Eliza? Carpenter were witnesses.

alviegal

alviegal Report 28 May 2011 21:55

1891 for the family.

CARPENTER, Thomas Head Married M 25 1866 Painter
Lambeth
London VIEW
CARPENTER, Caroline Wife Married F 25 1866
Lambeth
London VIEW
CARPENTER, Thomas Son M 1 1890
Lambeth
London VIEW
RG number:
RG12 Piece:
398 Folio:
66 Page:
25

Registration District:
Lambeth Sub District:
Kennington First Enumeration District:
3 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St James Kennington

Civil Parish:
Lambeth Municipal Borough:
Address:
61, White Hart Street, Lambeth County:
London



and 1871

CARPENTER, Henry Head M 36 1835 engine fitter Battersea Surrey VIEW
CARPENTER, Eliza Wife F 35 1836 Shoreditch Middlesex VIEW
CARPENTER, Henry J Son M 15 1856 engine fitter Lambeth Surrey VIEW
CARPENTER, William Son M 11 1860 Surrey VIEW
CARPENTER, Thomas Son M 5 1866 Surrey VIEW
CARPENTER, Eliza Daughter F 3 1868 Surrey VIEW
CARPENTER, Lucy Daughter F 1 1870 Surrey VIEW
RG number:
RG10 Piece:
667 Folio:
48 Page:
17

Registration District:
Lambeth Sub District:
Lambeth Church 2nd Enumeration District:
29 Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Lambeth Municipal Borough:
Address:
Park St, Lambeth County:
London, Surrey

Vicky

Vicky Report 28 May 2011 21:55

Thankyou for that I have Thomas Father as Henry Carpenter and Elizabeth Windebank I should of put that in earlier.

Sorry but thanks for looking

jax

jax Report 28 May 2011 21:58

1911 census - household transcription
Person: CARPENTER, Caroline
Address: 8 Hollington St Camberwell S E


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CARPENTER, Caroline Head Widow M 45 1866 London St Pancras VIEW
CARPENTER, Thomas Son Single M 21 1890 Errand Boy London Lambeth VIEW
CARPENTER, Henry Son Single M 18 1893 Messager Boy London Lambeth VIEW
CARPENTER, Joseph Son Single M 16 1895 Warehouse Boy London Lambeth VIEW
CARPENTER, Lucy Daughter Single F 12 1899 School London Lambeth VIEW
CARPENTER, Victoria Rose Daughter Single F 9 1902 London Lambeth VIEW
CARPENTER, Charlotte Daughter Single F 7 1904 London Lambeth VIEW
CARPENTER, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 5 1906 London Camberwell VIEW

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Vicky

Vicky Report 28 May 2011 22:02

Thats the same Census as I have been on I am so pleased it looks as though I am looking in the right direction.

Thankyou :-)

alviegal

alviegal Report 28 May 2011 22:07

Children for Thomas and Caroline.

Record

Match quality: 2 out of 5 Thomas Carpenter 14 Apr 1892 Thomas Carpenter,
Caroline Carpenter Lambeth Emmanuel Lambeth
View Record

Match quality: 2 out of 5 Lucy Carpenter 27 Nov 1898 Thomas Carpenter,
Caroline Carpenter Vauxhall St Peter Lambeth
View Record

Match quality: 2 out of 5 Victoria Rose Carpenter 22 May 1901 Thomas Carpenter,
Caroline Carpenter Vauxhall St Peter Lambeth
View Record

Match quality: 2 out of 5 Joseph William Carpenter 2 Apr 1904 Thomas Carpenter,
Caroline Carpenter Kennington St John the Divine Lambeth

alviegal

alviegal Report 28 May 2011 22:10

Caroline's first marriage.

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Caroline Chambers
Name: Caroline Chambers
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Spouse Name: John Joseph Swetman, labourer of 13 William St
Spouse Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 25 May 1885
Parish: Emmanuel, Lambeth
County: Surrey
Borough: Lambeth
Father Name: Joseph Chambers, shoemaker
Spouse Father Name: James Swetman, labourer


James William and Elizabeth Jane Swetman were witnesses.


and a child for them.

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Caroline Helen Swetman
Name: Caroline Helen Swetman
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1886
Baptism Date: 4 Apr 1886
Father's name: John Joseph Swetman
Mother's name: Caroline Swetman
Parish or Poor Law Union: Lambeth Emmanuel
Borough: Lambeth


and John's death.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about John Joseph Swetman
Name: John Joseph Swetman
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1886
Age at Death: 22
Registration district: Lambeth
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 209

Vicky

Vicky Report 28 May 2011 22:25

Wow thankyou for that information I would love to know what happen to her 1st husband as she married very quickly and now to find out what
happen to there child as I havent found him in any Census with them. You close one question and open loads more

This is brilliant Thankyou

alviegal

alviegal Report 28 May 2011 22:29

Caroline with her family in 1871.

CHAMBERS, Joseph Head M 45 1826 shoemaker Bath Somerset VIEW
CHAMBERS, Ellen Wife F 44 1827 Reading Berkshire VIEW
CHAMBERS, Richard Son M 17 1854 soldier Lambeth Surrey VIEW
CHAMBERS, William Son M 13 1858 Surrey VIEW
CHAMBERS, Ellen Daughter F 10 1861 Surrey VIEW
CHAMBERS, Henry* Daughter M 7 1864 Surrey VIEW
CHAMBERS, Caroline Daughter F 5 1866 Surrey VIEW
CHAMBERS, Mary Daughter F 2 1869 St Anns Middlesex VIEW
RG number:
RG10 Piece:
654 Folio:
60 Page:
16

Registration District:
Lambeth Sub District:
Waterloo Second Part Enumeration District:
13 Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Lambeth Municipal Borough:
Address:
Charles Street, Lambeth County:
London, Surrey

alviegal

alviegal Report 28 May 2011 22:34

Here is the daughter with her grandparents. I think E for Ellen has been put for a middle name instead of H for Helen.

1891

SWEETMAN, James J Head Married M 69 1822 General Labourer
Clerkenwell VIEW
SWEETMAN, Janet Wife Married F 58 1833
Lambeth VIEW
SWEETMAN, Thomas R Son Single M 21 1870 Carman
Lambeth VIEW
SWEETMAN, Janet S Daughter Single F 6 1885
Lambeth VIEW
SWEETMAN, Caroline E Granddaughter F 5 1886 Scholar
Lambeth VIEW
RG number:
RG12 Piece:
395 Folio:
88 Page:
39

Registration District:
Lambeth Sub District:
Lambeth Church Second Enumeration District:
20 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Emmanuel

Civil Parish:
Lambeth Municipal Borough:
Address:
13, William Street, Lambeth County:
London


1901


SWETMAN, James Joseph Head Married M 79 1822 Theatre Labourer
Cow Cross
London VIEW
SWETMAN, Janet Wife Married F 68 1833
Lambeth
London VIEW
SWETMAN, Janet Susan Daughter Single F 26 1875 Mother's Help
Lambeth
London VIEW
SWETMAN, Mary Ann Grand Daughter Single F 18 1883 Taker Off Litho Machine
Lambeth
London VIEW
SWETMAN, Caroline Helen Grand Daughter Single F 16 1885 Packer At Cocoa Works
Lambeth
London VIEW
RG number:
RG13 Piece:
407 Folio:
108 Page:
4

Registration District:
Lambeth Sub District:
Lambeth Church Second Enumeration District:
5 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Emmanuel

Civil Parish:
Lambeth Municipal Borough:
Address:
13, Distin Street, Lambeth County:
London


Then she marries.

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Caroline Ellen Swetman
Name: Caroline Ellen Swetman
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Spouse Name: James Pullock, french polisher (should read Puttock)
Spouse Age: 22
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 29 Jan 1905
Parish: Emmanuel
County: Surrey
Borough: Lambeth
Father Name: John Swetman, labourer
Spouse Father Name: John Samuel Pullock, sawyer
Dec has been written between these 2 names so maybe both fathers have died?

Frederick and Emily Swetman were witnesses.



and 1911. They had had 4 children but 3 had died.

PUTTOCK, James Head Married M 29 1882 French Polisher London Lambeth VIEW
PUTTOCK, Caroline Wife Married
6 years F 23 1888 London Lambeth VIEW
PUTTOCK, Annie Daughter F 4 1907 London Lambeth VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
1854 Reference:
RG14PN1854 RG78PN65 RD23 SD5 ED36 SN85

Registration District:
Southwark Sub District:
Newington South Enumeration District:
36 Parish:
St Mary Newington

Address:
5 Collitch Place Newington S E County:
London


Baptisms of 2 children.



Match quality: 2 out of 5 James Puttock 1 Feb 1905 James Puttock,
Caroline Ellen Puttock Lambeth Emmanuel Lambeth
View Record

Match quality: 2 out of 5 Annie Violet Puttock 23 Dec 1906 James Puttock,
Caroline Ellen Puttock Lambeth Emmanuel Lambeth

Vicky

Vicky Report 28 May 2011 22:54

Thankyou for looking all this up it has really help clear up loads of things. I have had enough for today so I am of to bed and will continue tomorrow.

Thankyou I couldnt of done this without you