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I would like to find out more about Mary Crowther please.

I believe she married Charles Crowther, sometimes called Chas Crowther, between 1851 to 1861. Previously, Charles had been married to Elizabeth Rothery and had Rothery, Elizabeth and David.
Charles was from Riddlesworth, Norfolk.

I know that Mary was born in county Galway, maybe Kilkenny?

Charles and Mary went on to have John, Reuben (died) and Mary Jane Crowther -my great grandmother.

I would love any info as to,
* where she was born exactly/street etc
* where she was in 1841 and 1851
*Parents names
*maiden name

I believe she died in 1893, aged 67.

In 1861 she lived in Hunslet, Holbeck, Leeds.

In 1871 she lived at 31, Rodgers buildings, Town Street, Holbeck, Beeston, Leeds.

1881 she lived at 7, Mill Fold, Holbeck, Leeds.

1891 she lived at 9, mill Fold,Holbeck, Leeds.

Hope you can help AGAIN.

Best wishes

Debi.x

1861 census for reference -

CROWTHER, Chas Head Married M 36 1825 Coal Miner
Riddlesworth
Norfolk VIEW
CROWTHER, Mary Wife F 34 1827
Ireland VIEW
CROWTHER, Rothery Son Unmarried M 14 1847 Coal Miner
Huddersfield
Yorkshire VIEW
CROWTHER, Elizh A Daughter F 12 1849 Flax Mill Worker
Huddersfield
Yorkshire VIEW
CROWTHER, David Son M 11 1850 Coal Miner
Huddersfield
Yorkshire VIEW
CROWTHER, John Son M 6 1855
Farnley
Yorkshire VIEW
CROWTHER, Reuben Son M 0 (1M) 1861
Beeston
Yorkshire VIEW
RG number:
RG09 Piece:
3361 Folio:
58 Page:
7

Registration District:
Hunslet Sub District:
6 Holbeck Enumeration District:
4 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Chapelry of Beeston

Civil Parish:
Leeds Beeston Municipal Borough:
Leeds Address:
Town Street, Leeds Beeston, Leeds County:
Yorkshire (West Riding)

Mary's maiden name will be on the birth cert of one of the children.

There is this marriage on FreeBMD???

Marriages Mar 1854 (>99%)
BRETTON Mary Halifax 9a 354
Crowther Charles Halifax 9a 354

This is the same marriage on familysearch.org -

Charles Crowther

England Marriages, 1538–1973


birth: 1822
marriage: 27 Feb 1854 —Elland, York, England
parents: Francis Crowther
spouse: Mary Bretton

record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973
groom's name: Charles Crowther
groom's birth date: 1822
groom's age: 32
bride's name: Mary Bretton
bride's birth date: 1824
bride's age: 30
marriage date: 27 Feb 1854
marriage place: Elland, York, England
groom's father's name: Francis Crowther
bride's father's name: John Bretton
groom's marital status: Widowed
bride's marital status: Single
indexing project (batch) number: M01396-0
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1542246

Have you got the marriage certificate for Charles' first marriage to see who his father is?

Marriages Dec 1842 (>99%)
CROWTHER Charles Halifax 22 140
Rothery Elizabeth Halifax 22 140

1881 census for reference -

CROWTHER, Mary Head Widow F 60 1821
Ireland VIEW
CROWTHER, John Son Single M 24 1857 Pit Carpenter (Coal)
Fearnley
Yorkshire VIEW
CROWTHER, Mary J Daughter Single F 16 1865 Mule Piecener (Woollen)
Beeston
Yorkshire VIEW
RG number:
RG11 Piece:
4495 Folio:
73 Page:
13

Registration District:
Holbeck Sub District:
Holbeck Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Beeston Municipal Borough:
Address:
7, Mill Fold, Beeston County:


Do you have your great grandmother's birth certificate?

1891 census for reference -

CROWTHER, Mary Head Widow F 67 1824
Ireland County Galway VIEW
CROWTHER, John Son Single M 35 1856 Coal Miner
Farnley
Yorkshire VIEW
CROWTHER, Mary J Daughter Single F 26 1865 Cloth Weaver
Beeston
Yorkshire VIEW
RG number:
RG12 Piece:
3669 Folio:
60 Page:
10

Registration District:
Holbeck Sub District:
Holbeck Enumeration District:
4 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Marys

Civil Parish:
Beeston Municipal Borough:
Leeds Address:
9, Mill Fold, Beeston, Leeds County:
Yorkshire (West Riding)

Is this your great grandmother?

Births Jun 1864 (>99%)
CROWTHER Mary Jane Kirkstall 9b 243

The district Kirkstall is in the county of West Riding of Yorkshire

Beeston is an area of south Leeds, West Yorkshire

His first marriage has the same father's name???

Charles Crowther

England Marriages, 1538–1973


birth: 1820
marriage: 17 Oct 1842 —Elland, York, England
parents: Francis Crowther
spouse: Elizabeth Rothery

record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973
groom's name: Charles Crowther
groom's birth date: 1820
groom's age: 22
bride's name: Elizabeth Rothery
marriage date: 17 Oct 1842
marriage place: Elland, York, England
groom's father's name: Francis Crowther
bride's father's name: Thomas Rothery
indexing project (batch) number: M01475-9
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1542245

There are several trees on Ancestry and at least one gives Charles' marriage to Mary in 1858 in Halifax but with no surname

A search on FreeBMD records a marriage between Charles Crowther and a Mary Ann BROWN Q4 1858 ref 9a 540

??????
Charles Crowther could have married Betty Shaw -

Marriages Dec 1858 (>99%)
Brown Mary Ann Halifax 9a 540
CROWTHER Charles Halifax 9a 540
Shaw Betty Halifax 9a 540
Stead John Halifax 9a 540

??????
1861 census -
CROWTHER, Charles Lodger Married M 26 1835 Stone Mason Midgey Yorkshire
CROWTHER, Betty Lodger Married F 24 1837 Carpet Painter
Norland Yorkshire
RG number:
RG09 Piece:
3284 Folio:
101 Page:
24

Registration District:
Halifax Sub District:
4 Halifax Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:
King Cross Church

Civil Parish:
Skircoat Municipal Borough:
Halifax Address:
Horsfalls Houses, Skircoat, Halifax County:
Yorkshire (West Riding)

????
Charles Crowther and Mary's child was John born in 1855 so the marriage in 1854 is more likely?

The two marriages for Charles, to Elizabeth Rothery and Mary Bretton, both have the same father's name, Francis Crowther.

Thanks VERY much Lynski.

I had found a Mary Bretton 1854 Halifax 9a 354
Mary Bell 1855 Bradford 9b 37
Mary Ann Brown Halifax 1858 9a 540

I kind of ruled out the last one, because of the date, with John being born in 1855. I only have access to records on Genes and ancestry do seem to provide more details, as I have recently found out.

If both marriage records for Charles to Elizabeth and Mary Bretton both have his fathers name on, I would think that was definitively her, so I am really grateful.

Just need to see where she was in 1841 and 1851 now.

Oh, that was the correct birth details you found.

Very best wishes

Debi

So, I now have more information, three fathers names and the marriage date. Does anyone have access to Irish records for 1841, 1851 and births?

Regards

Debi <3

I found my marriages on familysearch.org which is a free site.

Do you have any certificates so that you can confirm any of this?

I only seriously started my tree at the start of April, so I must try that site. I have done my research through Genes and Mundia. I don't have access to Irish records so I'm a bit stuck now. I also know that some Irish records are limited. I am hoping someone on here has access.

The info you found fits everything I have found and I only send off for certs when I am really stuck, but as I don't know her birth or how to send off for Irish certs anyway.

Thanks for all your help, as I do have extra information now and her maiden name!

Best wishes

Debi