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Would appreciate some help please in locating in 1891 James Webb b. abt.1859 in Herringfleet Suffolk and Ethel Ellen Webb b.1881 Stanstead/Ware Herts.
These are in fact father and daughter and in 1881 James, occ. Farrier, lives in Stanstead with his wife Annie who died abt the same time Ethel was born later that year.
Family stories tell of the belief that Ethel may have been stillborn, but we have a registration for her birth, or that she died in infancy, but no death reg. found. We do have a baptism for her 25 Sep.1881.
In 1901 there is an Ethel E.Webb, 18yrs old, so born abt 1883, Stanstead who is a servant in Much Hadham. We then have lost her.

If we could find Ethel and her father James in 1891 we are hoping to get some idea if this is her.

James Webb remarried in 1891, Yorkshire West Riding to a Mary Lavan. 1901 has him living with Mary and his new young family in Glossop, Derbyshire.

1891 would help confirm the whereabouts of either or both of these two.

Thanks for your time

Pamela

So far no luck....still looking

Regards Vera

Many thanks.


Pamela

Well, he is still around 1901 - must be the same person as occupation shoeing mith/blacksmith, and a farrier 1881

1901 England Census

Name: James W Webb
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Webb
Gender: Male
Where born: Herringfleet, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Glossop
Ecclesiastical parish: Whitfield St James
County/Island: Derbyshire

Registration district: Glossop
Sub-registration district: Glossop

James W Webb 42
Mary Webb 36 Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
James E Webb 6
Elsie Webb 4
Mary A Webb 1

Definitely same family 1911, a bit creative with the birthplace though!!

WEBB, James William Head Married M 51 1860 Coachsmith Norfolk Goldestone VIEW
WEBB, Mary Wife Married
20 years F 40 1871 Lancashire Liverpool VIEW
WEBB, James Edward Son Single M 16 1895 Peicer Cotton Mill Derbyshire Glossop VIEW
WEBB, Elsie Daughter Single F 14 1897 Tenter Cotton Mill Derbyshire Glossop VIEW
WEBB, Mary Ann Daughter Single F 11 1900 School Derbyshire Glossop VIEW
WEBB, Hilda Daughter Single F 8 1903 School Derbyshire Hadfield VIEW
WEBB, Doris Daughter Single F 6 1905 School Derbyshire Hadfield VIEW
WEBB, Maud Daughter Single F 3 1908 Derbyshire Hadfield VIEW
WEBB, Laura Daughter Single F 0 (8 MONTHS) 1911 Derbyshire Hadfield VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
21279 Reference:
RG14PN21279 RG78PN1266 RD441 SD1 ED14 SN71

Registration District:
Glossop Sub District:
Glossop Enumeration District:
14 Parish:
Glossop

Address:
71 Hadfield Road Hadfield County:
Derbyshire

Can't see them in 1891 but is this Ethel in 1911 as found in 1901?

FAWCETT, Hugh Son Single M 19 1892 Medical Student Wimbledon Surrey VIEW
FAWCETT, John Son M 10 1901 School Boy Wimbledon Surrey VIEW
FAWCETT, Loveday Daughter F 8 1903 Northwood Herts VIEW
LAWLEY, Mary Servant Single F 44 1867 Cook Domestic Kinver Staffs VIEW
WEBB, Ethel Servant Single F 27 1884 Housemaid Domestic Stanstead Abbots Herts VIEW
FAWCETT, Sandford Head Married M 47 1864 Engineering Inspector St Albans Herts VIEW
FAWCETT, Gladys Wife Married
20 years F 38 1873 Amersham Bucks VIEW
RG number
RG14 Piece
7696 Reference:
RG14PN7696 RG78PN379 RD140 SD1 ED10 SN25

Registration District
Watford Sub District
Bushey Enumeration District
10 Parish
Watford Rural

Address
Easby Northwood County
Hertfordshire

Maybe??

Marriages Jun 1904 (>99%)
Dowsett Ernest Blair Chertsey 2a 116
Long Frank Chertsey 2a 116
Styles Lavinia Chertsey 2a 116
Webb Ethel Ellen S Chertsey 2a 116

Marriage of James and Mary 1891..

So he must have been round the West/North Riding

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1891 (>99%)
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Lavan Mary Settle 9a 13
Webb James William Settle 9a 13

I think this could be the Ethel and Ernest who married in 1904

DOWSETT, Ernest Head Married M 36 1875 Dental Surgeon Greenwich Kent VIEW
DOWSETT, Ethel Wife Married
6 years F 32 1879 Walton Surrey VIEW
DOWSETT, Guy Son M 0 1911 Twickenham Middlesex VIEW
WEBB, Jessie Sister-In-Law F 26 1885 Sick Nurse Walton Surrey VIEW
HALE, Florence Married F 42 1869 Monthly Nurse Hatley Cambridgeshire VIEW
STEWART, Violet Servant Single F 23 1888 General Servant Domestic Middleton Norfolk VIEW
MANN, Emma Servant Single F 26 1885 Nurse Domestic Brand Cambridgeshire VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
6834 Reference:
RG14PN6834 RG78PN341 RD128 SD2 ED1 SN78

Registration District:
Brentford Sub District:
Twickenham Enumeration District:
1 Parish:
Twickenham

Address:
7 Lebanon Park Twickenham County:
Middlesex

Vera, Brummiejan,K and Sue

Thank you all so much for your time and efforts and finding this information for me . I've also tried to find a birth for any other Ethel E(llen) Webb in a similar time frame and place and came up blank, so think this is a distinct possibilty this must be my Ellen that you have found.

Again many thanks.

Pamela

Just to confirm the \marriage I put above is definitely not your Ethel as -

1891 England Census

Name: Ethel E S Webb
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Percy H Webb
Mother's name: Sarah J Webb
Gender: Female
Where born: Walton On Thames, Surrey, England

Civil parish: Walton
Ecclesiastical parish: Walton
Town: Walton
County/Island: Surrey

Registration district: Chertsey

Hi Brummiejan

I had already thought this would be the case as on reflection I realized that if it was her in 1911 census, it couldn't be her marriage in 1904, also as far as I have been able to ascertain her name was Ethel Ellen , no other initial on birth or baptism records.

Many thanks

Pamela.