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29 May 2011 13:26 |
Interested in Annie SHIELDS born approximately 1861. Mother of Mary Ann SHIELDS born 3 Sep 1878 at 150 Abbey Street, Derby whilst Annie was a domestic servant for a doctor, but where? Annie eventually married Benjamin TOMLINSON at the Victoria Street Congregational Church on 14 Oct 1888. Family information dictates that the doctor was the father of Mary Ann SHIELDS.
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29 May 2011 13:32 |
Mother is here as Mary not Annie?
1881 England Census about Mary Ann Shields Name: Mary Ann Shields Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Edward Shields Mother's name: Mary Shields Gender: Female Where born: Derbyshire, England Civil parish: Derby St Werburgh County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street Address: 150 Abbey St
Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Derby Sub-registration district: Derby ED, institution, or vessel: 38 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3400 Folio: 139 Page Number: 14 Household Members: Name Age Edward Shields 52 Mary Shields 45 William Shields 26 Mary J. Shields 17 John Shields 15 James Shields 12 Fred Shields 9 Edith Shields 7 Tom Shields 5 Mary Ann Shields 2
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29 May 2011 13:33 |
1881 census for ref, but no Annie
1881 England Census about Mary Ann Shields Name: Mary Ann Shields Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Edward Shields Mother's name: Mary Shields Gender: Female Where born: Derbyshire, England Civil parish: Derby St Werburgh County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street Address: 150 Abbey St Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Derby Sub-registration district: Derby ED, institution, or vessel: 38 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3400 Folio: 139 Page Number: 14 Household Members: Name Age Edward Shields 52 Mary Shields 45 William Shields 26 Mary J. Shields 17 John Shields 15 James Shields 12 Fred Shields 9 Edith Shields 7 Tom Shields 5 Mary Ann Shields 2 Andy
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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29 May 2011 13:43 |
RG12; Piece: 815; Folio 41; Page 26
Cook working for Thomas Jenner Verral Practioner.
In Brighton Sussex
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29 May 2011 13:44 |
is this annie in 1901
1901 census
Address Swiss Cottage Civil Parish Osmaston Rural District Shardlow Town or Village or Hamlet Osmaston Ecclesiastical Parish Osmaston Parliamentary Borough or Division South Derbyshire County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District Administrative County Derby
Householder 1 Name William Elliott Relation to Head of Family Boarder Condition as to Marriage Single Age Last Birthday 27 Sex Male Profession or Occupation Stableman Employment Status Where Born Notts Wysall Language Infirmity
Householder 2 Name Annie Tomlinson Relation to Head of Family Wife Condition as to Marriage Married Age Last Birthday 39 Sex Female Profession or Occupation Housewife Employment Status Where Born Derbys Derby Language Infirmity
Householder 3 Name Annie R Tomlinson Relation to Head of Family Daughter Condition as to Marriage Single Age Last Birthday 11 Sex Female Profession or Occupation Schoolgirl Employment Status Where Born Derbys Osmaston Language Infirmity
Householder 4 Name Benjamin Tomlinson Relation to Head of Family Head Condition as to Marriage Married Age Last Birthday 34 Sex Male Profession or Occupation Stableman Employment Status Where Born Derbys Derby Language Infirmity
Householder 5 Name Benjamin Tomlinson Relation to Head of Family Son Condition as to Marriage Single Age Last Birthday 7 Sex Male Profession or Occupation School Boy Employment Status Where Born Derbys Crewton Language Infirmity
Householder 6 Name Thomas Woodrow Relation to Head of Family Boarder Condition as to Marriage Single Age Last Birthday 22 Sex Male Profession or Occupation Stableman Employment Status Where Born Norfolk Pulham Language Infirmity
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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29 May 2011 14:01 |
On the 1881 census Thomas J Verral Occupation:
Surgeon General Practitioner is unmarried and lodging with an Eliza Benfield 34 unmarr.
RG11; Piece: 1093; Folio: 110; Page: 9
I can't copy and paste as it comes out all spaced out.
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29 May 2011 14:06 |
Mary Ann Shields England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 birth: 03 Oct 1878 residence: 1878 —Derbyshire, England parents: Mary Ann Shields record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 name: Mary Ann Shields gender: Female baptism/christening date: 12 May 1879 baptism/christening place: St Paul, Derby, Derbyshire, England birth date: 03 Oct 1878 mother's name: Mary Ann Shields indexing project (batch) number: C02062-0 system origin: England-ODM source film number: 1752148
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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29 May 2011 14:06 |
Poss birth but without the cert you will not know whether her mother was Annie.
Mary Ann Shields
Jul-Aug-Sep 1878
Derby
Derbyshire
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29 May 2011 14:06 |
Mary Ann Shields England and Wales Census, 1881 birth: 1879 —, Derbyshire, England residence: 1881 —St Werburgh, Derbyshire, England census: 1881 —St Werburgh, Derbyshire, England parents: Edward Shields, Mary Shields record title: England and Wales Census, 1881 name: Mary Ann Shields age: 2 gender: Female birth year: 1879 birthplace: , Derbyshire, England relationship to head of household: Daughter marital condition: Single profession/occupation: Scholar address: 150 Abbey St census place: St Werburgh, Derbyshire, England record type: Household family history library film: 1341813 the national archives reference: RG11 piece/folio: 3400 / 139 page number: 14
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29 May 2011 14:18 |
1891 England Census about Annie Shields Name: Annie Shields Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Derby, Derbyshire, England Civil parish: Brighton Ecclesiastical parish: Brighton Town: Brighton County/Island: Sussex Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: Cook
Condition as to marriage:Single Registration district: Brighton Sub-registration district: The Palace ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Household Members
Thomas Jenne Verrell 38 Mary E Verrell 37 Paul J Verrell 8 Jane M Verrell 3 C Frances Verrell 2 Rosamond Hy Verrell 9/12 Mariam D E Verrell 34 Olive E Miles 31 Domestic Nurse Francis E Kite 21 Domestic Nurse Annie Shields 25 Cook ****** Elizebeth Curtis 24 Parlourmaid Eliza Carter 20 housemaid
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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29 May 2011 14:30 |
If Annie was born in 1861 she would have been 17 in 1878. If she was born in 1866 she would have been 12 at the birth?
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29 May 2011 16:13 |
If Annie married Benjamin Tomlinson in 1888 why is she Sheilds on 1891 census??
1891 Ormaston D10 > 13 Benjamin Tomlinson 1868 a Stableman Annie 1861 Annie 1890. They are the same people as on 1901 census.
Are these who you mean,but Annie Sheilds is with the Doctor 1891!!!!!!
Mary Ann in 1881 with Edward and Mary as daughter,but they already had a Mary Jane 1864 also on that census.
I can't find a Annie born to them @ 1861 only a Hannah M born @ 1857.
I think you have got the two families mixed up!!!
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29 May 2011 16:39 |
1911 590,London Road Derby Benjamin Tomlinson 1867 Railway Horsekeeper Annie age 53 = 1858 Derby married 23 years 2 kids Annie Rebecca 1890 and Benjamin Reginald 17 Also foster son Victor bates 13 born Derby.
Benjamin Tomlinson of 21 Dickenson street died 13/6/1934 at 125,Grosvenor St Derby,left £315 7s 6d to Benjamin Reginald Tomlinson a coach trimmer.
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29 May 2011 18:37 |
Could this be the one at the Doctors in 1891
1871 St werburghs St peters D 29 > 17 Derby Henry born @ 1837 Derby a boiler maker Bathsheba 1841 derby Ann 1864.
1881 Chiswick Middlesex D1 > 50 Henry Sheilds Derby @ 1837 Rivetter in Shipyard Isaac son Charlotte daughter Ann daughter @ 1866
1891 Preston Brighton Sussex D26 > 12 Henry Sheilds born Derby at daughter Charlotte's house she is now Owens No Ann on above census.
So it puts Ann/Annie in right area.
1891 Annie Sheilds 1866 Derby at Brighton Sussex The Palace D15 > 26.
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30 May 2011 17:05 |
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Ann Shield England and Wales Census, 1881 birth: 1859 —Derby, Derbyshire, England residence: 1881 —Prestwich, Lancashire, England census: 1881 —Prestwich, Lancashire, England record title: England and Wales Census, 1881 name: Ann Shield age: 22 gender: Female birth year: 1859 birthplace: Derby, Derbyshire, England relationship to head of household: Servant marital condition: Single profession/occupation: Servant (Domestic Serv) address: Hope Cottage Hilton Lane census place: Prestwich, Lancashire, England record type: Household family history library film: 1341963 the national archives reference: RG11 piece/folio: 4033 / 78 page number: 8
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31 May 2011 15:17 |
Hi Everyone, Thank you very much for your response to my request about the Shields family. Most of the responses referred to the correct family, but the family with Bethsheba in it I have come across before but regarded it as not correct family. I would still like to know where he was during the 1881 census as she was not living with her parents at 150 Abbey Street, Derby. There seems be 2 alternatives, one at Brighton and the other in Lancashire. Which one is the right one? I was aware of where Benjamin Tomlinson lived and his children but not his foster child, nor the circumstances of his death. I wonder if any of the descendants of Edward Shields are still alive so that I can ask them if they know anything? I did find Edward Shields will in the Derbyshire Record Office, it was dated 1890, but I did not find any reference to the Shields family to 1900 in Derby. However, I did an Electorial Role and telephone search in 2007 and found several people with the surname Shields living in Derby or the surrounding area. I wonder if it is possible to match any of these with my Shields? Thank you again.
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