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hello.i am trying to find bertram barter in the 1911 census.he is not bertram albert at north wootton married to nellie.mine seems to have disappeared. parents walter and elizabeth barter who both had died by 1905 and the family split up.can anyone help please.

Bertram Barter
England and Wales Census, 1891

birth: Holwell, Dorsetshire
residence: 1891 —England
census: 1891 —England

record title: England and Wales Census, 1891
name: Bertram Barter
event: Census
event date: 1891
gender: Male
age: 4
relationship to head of household: Son
birthplace: Holwell, Dorsetshire
record type: Household
registration district: Sherborne
sub-district: Yetminster
ecclesiastical parish: Holwell
civil parish: Holwell
county: Dorsetshire

Walter Barter
England and Wales Census, 1901

birth: 1858 —Holwell, Dorsetshire
residence: 31 Mar 1901 —Holwell, Dorsetshire, England
census: 31 Mar 1901 —Holwell, Dorsetshire, England

record title: England and Wales Census, 1901
name: Walter Barter
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
gender: Male
age: 43
relationship to head of household: Head
birthplace: Holwell, Dorsetshire
record type: Household
registration district: Sherborne
sub-district: Yetminster
ecclesiastical parish: Holwell
civil parish: Holwell
county: Sherborne, Yetminster, Holwell, Dorsetshire

1891/1901 for info
Name: Bertram Barter
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation: Son
Father's name: Walter Barter
Mother's name: Elizabeth Barter
Gender: Male
Where born: Holwell, Dorset, England
Civil parish: Holwell
Ecclesiastical parish: Holwell
Town: Holwell
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England


Household Members:
Name Age
Walter Barter 36
Elizabeth Barter 33
Arthur Barter 5
Kate Barter 3
Bertram Barter 4

1901

Household Members:
Name Age
Walter Barter 43
Elizabeth Barter 43
Arthur Barter 15
Kate Barter 13
Bertie Barter 11
Tom Barter 9
Harry Barter 6
Bessie Barter 1

Are you certain it's not the same man? I know it seems to make no sense but there seems to be only one birth

Births Sep 1889 (>99%)
Barter Bertram Sherborne 5a 347

1911 as found above

BARTER, William Head Married M 64 1847 Farm Labourer Compton Dorset VIEW
BARTER, Charlotte Wife Married
40 years F 64 1847 Melbury Dorset VIEW
BARTER, Bert Son Single M 24 1887 Masons Labourer Melbury Dorset VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
12171 Reference:
RG14PN12171 RG78PN687 RD257 SD2 ED1 SN33

Registration District:
Shaftesbury Sub District:
Fontmell Enumeration District:
1 Parish:
Melbury Abbas

Address:
East Melbury Melbury Abbas Shaftesbury County:
Dorsetshire

This is the Bert above as melbury covered by this district:

Births Mar 1887 (>99%)
BARTER Bertie John Shaftesbury 5a 216

I think this is Walter, having looked at later census reports. Are you certain he died (thinking the William in 1911 is him!)

1861 England Censu

Name: Walter Wm Barter
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Son
Father's name: John Barter
Mother's name: Eliza Barter
Gender: Male
Where born: Holwell, Dorset, England

Civil parish: Holwell
County/Island: Dorset

Registration district: Sherborne
Sub-registration district: Yetminster

John Barter 35
Eliza Barter 35
Sydney Barter 10
Walter Wm Barter 5
Samuel Barter 3
James Barter 4 MO
William White 67

Ths is the rejected 1911 if anyone wants a look

BARTER, William Head Widower M 54 1857 Carter On Farm Howell Sherborne Dorset
BARTER, Bertram Albert Son Married
4 years M 22 1889 Road Labourer Hillfield Cerne Dorset
BARTER, Nellie Daughter In Law Married F 24 1887 Preston Yeovil Somerset V
BARTER, Winnie Rose Grandchild F 5 1906 School North Wootton Sherborne Dorset
BARTER, Stanley William Grandchild M 0 (3 MONTHS) 1911 North Wootton Sherborne Dorset VIEW [You have previously viewed this record]
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
12437 Reference:
RG14PN12437 RG78PN709 RD265 SD1 ED10 SN78

Registration District:
Sherborne Sub District:
Yetminster Enumeration District:
10 Parish:
North Wootton

Address:
North Wootton Sherborne Dorset County:
Dorsetshire

? his death index
Name: Bertram Barter
Birth Date: abt 1890
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1956
Age at Death: 66
Registration district: Sturminster
Inferred County: Dorset
Volume: 6a
Page: 757

this is the 1901 Bertram
Name: Bertram Barter
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Relation: Son
Father's name: William Barter
Mother's name: Frances Barter
Gender: Male
Where born: Wootton Glanville, Dorset, England
Civil parish: Longburton
Ecclesiastical parish: Holmest St Mary and Longburton St James
Town: Longburton
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England

Household Members:
Name Age
William Barter 45
Frances Barter 48
Annie Barter 28
Bessie Barter 18
Reginald Barter 15
Bertram Barter 10

There is another , but dates out a bit !! could some one look ?

BARTER BERTIE M 1881 30 Poole Dorsetshire

could he have emigrated?
some births
Name: Bertram Barter
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1889
Registration district: Sherborne
Inferred County: Dorset, Somerset
Volume: 5a
Page: 47

Name: Bertie Barter
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1890
Registration district: Dorchester
Inferred County: Dorset
Volume: 5a
Page: 341


Name: Bertie John Barter
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1887
Registration district: Shaftesbury
Inferred County: Dorset
Volume: 5a
Page: 216

birth index for Poole(1911)
Name: Bertie Barter
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1880
Registration district: Poole
Inferred County: Dorset
Volume: 5a
Page: 256

This si the one mentioned earlier in the thread

1911
BARTER, Bertie Head Married
6 years M 30 1881 Bricklayer Broadstone Dorset VIEW
BARTER, Agnes Ellen Wife Married
6 years F 27 1884 Ringwood Hants VIEW
BARTER, Bertie Cecil Son M 0 (2 MONTHS) 1911 Broadstone Dorset VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
12264 Reference:
RG14PN12264 RG78PN694 RD261 SD1 ED1 SN116

Registration District:
Poole Sub District:
Canford Enumeration District:
1 Parish:
Canford Magna

Address:
Wimborne Road Broadstone



Marriages Jun 1905 (>99%)
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Barter Bertie Poole 5a 632
Cave Carrie Poole 5a 632
HELLYER Walter Poole 5a 632
Lawford Agnes Ellen Poole 5a 632

thank you all for helping and your time.i now have some leads to work with.there will be more money on the way to GRO.thanks.