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yes i know what james jnr mothers name was as shes was my mothers mother ,

a bit more on the marriage

Marriage Indexes
Surname CROOKS
Forename(s) James
Spouse's Surname PARKER
Spouse's Forename(s) Elizabeth
Year 1910
Church / Register Office Kirkdale, St. Mary
Registers At Region Liverpool Lancashire
Reference 2013WD/27/426

Thank you all, ill see if i can get marraige cert, can,t find answers anywhere else.

have you got this birth cert to confirm James Junior's mother's maiden name?

BMD Search result details
Civil Registration event: Birth

Name: CROOKS, James
Registration District: West Derby
County: Lancashire
Year of Registration: 1911
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Volume No: 8B
Page No: 436

Vera,
If you can get his marriage certificate, hopefully it will give his fathers name and occupation, that will help.

Regards Vera

thanks K my g/mothers name was elizabeth parker so its the same one, at least i have a bit of info, i didnt know he was stoker,

think you need to order this marriage cert

BMD Search result details
Civil Registration event: Marriage

Name: CROOKS, James
Registration District: West Derby
County: Lancashire
Year of Registration: 1910
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Volume No: 8B
Page No: 470

MarriageFinder™: James Crooks married one of the following people

PARKER, Elizabeth
THOMPSON, Jessie
DINELEY, George Albert

Hi Vera,
Have checked the crew lists on FMP sorry no luck. I would think that there was only one 1911 census which unfortunately doesn't include merchant ships, only Royal Navy ones.

Regards Vera

even though i was 12y.o when my g/d died all i remember my mother , his daughter saying about him was he was born in london, i think about1888, as he died in 1960 aged 73, he was about 2y.o and became an orphan, how i dont know, and my mother said some orphans were sent to sea rather than an orphanage, and that my g/d wassent to sea. ive not found a birth certificate for him, i was hopeing the 191q1 census might of given me some clues but iv,e drawn a blank again, thank you all for help/

The occupation is from the image of the census with Elizabeth and young James in 1911. Marine fireman is written in the occupation column against the listing of Husband at Sea. I think marine firemen were stokers?

I presume James age and birthplace as possibly London is from a tree on Ancestry that lists his birthplace as London in 1887/88 and marriage to Elizabeth Parker in 1910, but does not list his father's name.

Vera, if you don't have any other info then how do you know he's your grandfather?

Sorry for all the questions, but if we're to help then we have to have something to go on. We'll try to find the info that you don't have, but you must give us some clues. There is a good reason for the questions, strange as they may seem.

Were there any other children born to the marriage, if so who and when/where?

Do you know when and where your grandfather died?

Regarding the "Marine Fireman" - that is what's written on the census form - there is nothing else.

i dont have any other info, thank you all for help/. and K any other info on the marine fireman

James, athough absent, appears to be listed as a marine fireman

Are you assuming your granddads year of birth would have been the same as his wifes?

Do you have any record of your granddad James anywhere else?

In order to trace him we need to know as much as possible.

How do you know his name was James?

is this her?

CROOKS, Elizabeth Head Married F 23 1888 Lpool Lancs
CROOKS, James Son M 0 (2 MONTHS) 1911 Lpool

Registration District: West Derby
Sub District: Kirkdale
Enumeration District: 5
Parish: Kirkdale

Address: 9 Willow Grove Kirkdale Liverpool
County: Lancashire

** On the original it says she's been married 14 months and her husband's at sea.

place liverpool

my g/mother is elizabeth crooks also on1911 census is her son james, my g/dad was away at sea, so i just needed to know if people at sea was on a census, and where i can get the info. my g/dads name was james crooks, and the nearest dob is 1888.

Vera, you need to give us your grandmother's name, birth year and birthplace!
Jan

on the 1911 census my granmother is on and it states that her husband is away at sea, and was wondering if people at sea where on any census, and ill have alook at 1901 census. thanks

Vera -
You have started another thread here, you need to delete one as people will end up repeating research. I think maybe you were trying to reply on the other thread? To reply on here type in open box at the bottom of the page and click on "submit". To delete the other one go back and click on "delete" on your first posting.
Jan