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Can I have an 1891 census lookup please!

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Linda

Linda Report 2 Jun 2011 01:21

Hello
Can someone tell me who the person below was living with in 1891 census please!

MARTIN William 1882 Newcastle On Tyne Newcastle Upon Tyne, Westgate.

Most grateful.
Linda.

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 2 Jun 2011 01:27

poss


1891 England Census about William H Martin
Name: William H Martin
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation: Son
Father's name: Matthew H Martin
Mother's name: Elizabeth F Martin
Gender: Male
Where born: South Shields, Durham, England
Civil parish: Westoe
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephens
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: South Shields
Sub-registration district: Westoe
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4154
Folio: 47
Page Number: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
Matthew H Martin 38
Elizabeth F Martin 35
Francis Martin 15
Magdalene Martin 13
Elizabeth F Martin 11
William H Martin 9
James Martin 6
Henry Martin 1

Linda

Linda Report 2 Jun 2011 01:42

Lindsey.

I found the above person on freesearch of this site.
The information you have gave me is not the right boy..

Thank you.
Linda.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 2 Jun 2011 01:57

This looks like Ancestry's version


Name: William Marten
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation: Son
Father's name: John Marten
Mother's name: Elizabeth Marten
Where born: Newcastle Upon Tyne

Civil parish: Westgate
County/Island: Northumberland
Registration district: Newcastle Upon Tyne

John Marten 48
Elizabeth Marten 47
Mary Marten 26
John Marten 21
James Marten 19
Janes Marten 17
George Marten 15
Margaret Marten 13
Louisa Marten 11
William Marten 9
Albert Marten 5

Linda

Linda Report 2 Jun 2011 02:16

JaneyCanuck

Thank you for that information!
I shall have to dismiss that boy too/

kind regards
Linda.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 2 Jun 2011 02:45

LInda -- instead of posting repeated lookup requests for people who turn out not to be the right ones, could you say what/who you *are* looking for?

Lynski

Lynski Report 2 Jun 2011 02:48

What other information do you have on him that could help to narrow it down?

Do you know his parents names?

The only one matching the information you have given is the one JaneyCanuck found???

MARTIN, John Head Married M 48 1843 Baker
Scotland VIEW
MARTIN, Elizabeth Wife Married F 47 1844
Scotland VIEW
MARTIN, Mary Daughter Single F 26 1865 Dress Maker
Scotland VIEW
MARTIN, John Son Single M 21 1870 Shipyard Labourer
Newcastle on Tyne VIEW
MARTIN, James Son Single M 19 1872 Shipyard Labourer
Newcastle on Tyne VIEW
MARTIN, Jane E Daughter Single F 17 1874 Book Sewer
Newcastle on Tyne VIEW
MARTIN, George Son M 15 1876
Newcastle on Tyne VIEW
MARTIN, Margaret Daughter F 13 1878
Newcastle on Tyne VIEW
MARTIN, Louisa Daughter F 11 1880 Scholar
Newcastle on Tyne VIEW
MARTIN, William Son M 9 1882 Scholar
Newcastle on Tyne VIEW
MARTIN, Albert Son M 5 1886
Newcastle on Tyne VIEW

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RG number:
RG12 Piece:
4193 Folio:
31 Page:
57

Registration District:
Newcastle upon Tyne Sub District:
Westgate Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Matthew

Civil Parish:
Westgate Municipal Borough:
Newcastle upon Tyne Address:
14, Elswick East Terrace, Westgate, Newcastle Upon Tyne County:
Northumberland

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 2 Jun 2011 02:51

Lynski -- it seems that Linda is trying to find some particular William Martin and keeps hoping that various William Martins in various censuses that are found on free searches (i.e. can't see details) will be hers.

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1270328

This is a really backwards way to go about things and means pointless lookups are being done, because those people could be ruled out right away if *we* knew what criteria Linda was using to rule them out.

As I said, why not say what you *are* looking for, Linda?

Of course, if you have had a thread about it already, you should go back there ...

Linda

Linda Report 2 Jun 2011 23:49

JaneyCanuck

Thank you for your help in explaining this for me!
Here is a bit of history on the family..

William MARTIN was born 1881 Newcastle upon Tyne he was the son of
Thomas Scott Martin 1840 Newcastle upon Tyne..occ; Plasterer/ Bridget c1844.DUBLIN. Ireland

William was one of seven children named;

James 1865 Dublin
John 1867 Dublin
Margaret 1868 Dublin
Ann 1872 Newcastle upon Tyne.
Thomas Scott 1874 Newcastle upon Tyne.
Robert 1876 Newcastle upon Tyne.

In 1871 they were at 1871:47 Calton Street.Newcastle upon Tyne. Northumberland. England. All Saints

In 1881 they were living at 1881:13 Mawson Street.Byker. Newcastle upon Tyne. Northumberland, England.

In 1891 they were at; 1891:11 Mawson Street.Byker.Newcastle upon Tyne.Northumberland. England...William is not at this address..


William`s Mother Bridget died 1887...Father Thomas Died 1894 both in Newcastle upon Tyne.

Kind regards.
Linda.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 3 Jun 2011 00:59

Okay ... so you're looking for William in 1891 and later.

Do you know anything about him? For instance, is there reason to believe he was still living in 1891? Tell us how you're related -- is he a brother of your own ancestor, for example?

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 3 Jun 2011 01:08

The household in 1881 in Byker, for info:

Thomas Martin 40
Bridget Martin 37
John Martin 14
Margaret Martin 13
Ann Martin 9
Thomas Martin 7
Robert Martin 5
William Martin 2 months


Could be bad news. Do you know which one of these he is?

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

Births Mar 1881
MARTIN William Newcastle T. 10b 68
MARTIN William Farrell Newcastle T. 10b 142

Deaths Sep 1881
Martin William Farrell 0 Newcastle T. 10b 79

Searching between 1881 and 1891, there is also:

Deaths Dec 1883
MARTIN William 3 Newcastle T 10b 96

There were only two other William Martins born 1877-1881 in Newcastle upon Tyne.

This William would have been four at the time of that death:
Births Jun 1877
MARTIN William Newcastle T. 10b 134

and this William had a middle name:
Births Jun 1878
Martin William George Newcastle T. 10b 111

So I would suspect that one of those deaths is your William.