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looking for ABRAHAM twins 1891-1911

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Susan

Susan Report 2 Jun 2011 13:47

Hi I am looking for the birth of twins born either WHITECHAPEL LONDON or MILE END OLD TOWN. Father JACOB ABRAHAM mother SARAH PEFFER. The twins died young before 1ST birthday, they are not on the 1901 census, but on the 1911 census it says 9 live births 2 died. I hope some-one can help me with this.

Susan.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 2 Jun 2011 14:03

is this Jacob?

Jacob Abraham
England and Wales Census, 1901

birth: 1891 —Manchester
residence: 31 Mar 1901 —Whitechapel, London, Middlesex, England
census: 31 Mar 1901 —Whitechapel, London, Middlesex, England

record title: England and Wales Census, 1901
name: Jacob Abraham
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
gender: Male
age: 10
relationship to head of household: Son
birthplace: Manchester
record type: Household
registration district: Whitechapel
sub-district: Mile End New Town
ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
civil parish: Whitechapel
county: Whitechapel, Mile End New Town, Whitechapel, London, Middlesex

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 2 Jun 2011 14:04

or this one maybe?

Jacob Abraham
England and Wales Census, 1891

birth: Whitechapel, London
residence: 1891 —England
census: 1891 —England

record title: England and Wales Census, 1891
name: Jacob Abraham
event: Census
event date: 1891
gender: Male
age: 32
relationship to head of household: Head
birthplace: Whitechapel, London
record type: Household
registration district: Islington
sub-district: Highbury
ecclesiastical parish: St Pauls Balls Pond
civil parish: Islington
county:

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 2 Jun 2011 14:06

Just curious. How do you know that the 2 children who died were twins and that both children died before they were 1 year old?

There does not appear to have been the birth registration of twins in either the Whitechapel or Mile End Old Town registration districts between 1891~1911.

tempest

tempest Report 2 Jun 2011 14:10

a couple of possibles, but not twins

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
Name: Sarah Abrahams
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1908
Age at Death: 8
Registration district: Mile End Old Town
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1c
Page: 270


England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
Name: Welcome Alexandra Abrahams
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1902
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1910
Age at Death: 8
Registration district: Whitechapel
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1c
Page: 149

Susan

Susan Report 2 Jun 2011 14:34

Hi all thanks for your replies I have the 1891-1911 censuses on the 1911 census it says children born 9, 7 are on the census 2 died the family told me they were twins, the address 14A NEWBOLD STREET STEPNEY DISTRICT MILE END OLD TOWN. Susan

Susan

Susan Report 2 Jun 2011 14:36

Hi all thanks for your replies I have the 1891-1911 censuses on the 1911 census it says children born 9, 7 are on the census 2 died the family told me they were twins, the address 14A NEWBOLD STREET STEPNEY DISTRICT MILE END OLD TOWN. Susan

tempest

tempest Report 2 Jun 2011 14:47

posting this for all the helpers to see

and in the children who have died column it does actually say "2 (twins)" and just underneath it says "11 months" at least it looks like months

1911 census - address transcription
Address: 14a Newbold St Stepney


Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

ABRAHAMS, Jacob Head Married 21 years M 42 1869 Tailor Machiner Poland Russia Res
ABRAHAMS, Sarah Wife Married 21 years F 42 1869 Poland Russia Res
ABRAHAMS, Mark Son Single M 20 1891 French Polisher London Whitechapel
ABRAHAMS, Rose Daughter Single F 18 1893 Underclothing London Whitechapel
ABRAHAMS, Esther Daughter Single F 16 1895 Artificial Florist London Whitechapel
ABRAHAMS, Isaac Son Single M 12 1899 School London Shadwell
ABRAHAMS, Nathan Son Single M 11 1900 School London Shadwell
ABRAHAMS, Barnett Son Single M 9 1902 School London Shadwell
ABRAHAMS, Lily Daughter Single F 7 1904 School London Shadwell

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 2 Jun 2011 14:51

This could be them perhaps:

Births Dec 1904 (>99%)
ABRAHAMS Louis Stepney 1c 353
ABRAHAMS Sarah Stepney 1c 353

Births Dec 1906 (>99%)
Abrahams Lottie Stepney 1c 341
Abrahams Louis Stepney 1c 341

Only one death however:

Deaths Jun 1907 (>99%)
ABRAHAMS Lottie 0 Stepney 1c 228

tempest

tempest Report 2 Jun 2011 15:01

is this them on 1901 census

Address: 76, Sutton Street, St George In The East

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born

ABRAHAMS, Jacobs Head Married M 32 1869 Tailor Russia
ABRAHAMS, Sarier Wife Married F 32 1869 Russia
ABRAHAMS, Mark Son Single M 10 1891 St Georges E
ABRAHAMS, Rose Daughter Single F 8 1893 St Georges E
ABRAHAMS, Esther Daughter Single F 6 1895 St Georges E
ABRAHAMS, Jacobs Son Single M 3 1898 St Georges E
ABRAHAMS, Neaghty Son Single M 1 1900 St Georges E

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 2 Jun 2011 15:04

??

Deaths Mar 1901 (>99%)
Abrahams Sarah 0 Whitechapel 1c 209

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 2 Jun 2011 15:10

Guessing !


Births Jun 1898 (>99%)
Abrahams Rebecca Whitechapel 1c 271
Abrahams Sarah Whitechapel 1c 271

Deaths Jun 1898 (>99%)
Abrahams Sarah 0 Whitechapel 1c 154
Deaths Sep 1899 (>99%)
Abrahams Rebecca 1 Whitechapel 1c 251

Maureen

tempest

tempest Report 2 Jun 2011 15:13

there are three "unnamed Abrahams" registered around the time in Mile End Old Town

Name: ABRAHAMS, Male (unnamed)
Registration District: Mile End Old Town
County: London
Year of Registration: 1890
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Volume No: 1C
Page No: 455


Name: ABRAHAMS, Male (unnamed)
Registration District: Help Mile End Old Town
County: London
Year of Registration: 1900
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Volume No: 1C
Page No: 424


Name: ABRAHAMS, Male (unnamed)
Registration District: Mile End Old Town
County: London
Year of Registration: 1903
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Volume No: 1C
Page No: 485

Susan

Susan Report 2 Jun 2011 15:14

Hi thanks all they are the census I have already but I will look at tthe births and deaths. Thanks again for your help.

Susan.