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I think Richard Flower of the father of Edw I found in 1841 had died by 1851

Deaths Dec 1846 (>99%)
Flower Richard Walter Bristol 11 145

Thanks again people. I will definately check these out. A few certs are in order, i think.

And this may be why he was a widower again in 1901:

Deaths Mar 1894
FLOWER Alice Sarah 45 Kensington 1a 14[41]

Not impossible:

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1881
Clarke Ellen Chelsea 1a 494
>>FLOWER Edward Chelsea 1a 494
>>PERCY Alice Sarah Chelsea 1a 494
VICKERY Charles Kemp Chelsea 1a 494

More info:

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name: Edward Flower - widower, dentist
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Spouse Name: Alice Sarah Percy - widow
Spouse Age: 32
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 28 Jul 1881
Parish: St John, Worlds End
County: Middlesex
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Father Name: Richard Flower - painter (fits info previously found)
Spouse Father Name: William Doe - parish clerk

address for both - 10 Gertrude Street

Witnesses: William Doe, Emma Flower. (On the 1881 census "our" Edward had a daughter Emma E)

Not 100% about this 1891. We know he moved to London. Could a Chemist's assistant become a dentist? Might he have remarried?

FLOWER, Edward Head Married M 54 1837 Dentist Bristol
FLOWER, Alice Wife Married F 42 1849 Whetstone Middlesex
WILLSON, Charles Boarder Single M 30 1861 Wireworker Chelsea
ROSE, Mary Visitor Single F 30 1861 House Keeper Kentish Town

Registration District: Kensington
Sub District: Brompton
Enumeration District: 14
Ecclesiastical Parish: St Luke Redcliffe Square

Civil Parish: Kensington
Municipal Borough: Middlesex

Address: 322, Fulham Road, Kensington, Middlesex
County: London

can anyone find them on the 1851 or 1891 census'?

I think this is the Edward I found on Family Search. in 1841. The first Edward I found in 1841 is listed on Family Search and 1851 as born in 1833

1841

Name: Edw Flower
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Gender: Male
Where born: Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: St Philip and St Jacob
Hundred: Bristol City
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Bristol
Sub-registration district: St Paul
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 375
Book: 1
Folio: 32
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
Rute Flower 25 Plasterer - the image is Richard
Elizath Flower 30
Edw Flower 4
Elizth Flower 2
Rudo Flower 6 MO

Thanks again, so much to do, its great

??

Edward Flower
England, Bristol Parish Registers, 1538-1900

residence: 16 Apr 1837 —Somersetshire, Abbots Leigh (Holy Trinity)
parents: Richard Flower, Elizabeth Flower

record title: England, Bristol Parish Registers, 1538-1900
name: Edward Flower
event: Christening
event date: 16 Apr 1837
event place: Abbots Leigh (Holy Trinity), Somersetshire, England
father: Richard Flower
mother: Elizabeth Flower
digital folder number: 4230763

??

Elizabeth Finch
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

residence: North Curry, Somerset, England
parents: Ephraim Finch, Maria

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Elizabeth Finch
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 30 Jul 1837
baptism/christening place: West Hatch, Somerset, England
father's name: Ephraim Finch
mother's name: Maria
indexing project (batch) number: I03330-7
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1470910

This one looks more likely from Family Search

Edward Flower Pedigree
Male

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
16 APR 1837 St Philip And St Jacob'S Church, Bristol, Gloucester, England

Parents:
Father: Richard Flower Family
Mother: Elizabeth

Edwd Flower
England and Wales Census, 1841

birth: 1837 —Somerset
residence: 1841 —St Philip & Jacob, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
census: 1841 —St Philip & Jacob, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England

record title: England and Wales Census, 1841
name: Edwd Flower
event: Census
event date: 1841
gender: Male
age: 4
birthplace: Somerset
record type: Household
registration district: Bristol
sub-district: St Paul
civil parish: St Philip & Jacob
county: Gloucestershire

Thanks K, will check that one out

Edward Flower
England and Wales Census, 1861

birth: 1837 —Bristol
residence: 1861 —St Augustines, St Augustines, Gloucestershire, England
census: 1861 —St Augustines, St Augustines, Gloucestershire, England

record title: England and Wales Census, 1861
name: Edward Flower
event: Census
event date: 1861
gender: Male
age: 24
relationship to head of household: Head
birthplace: Bristol
record type: Household
registration district: Bristol
sub-district: St Augustine
civil parish: St Augustines
county: Gloucestershire

Possible 1841

Name: Edward Flower
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Gender: Male
Where born: Somerset, England

Civil parish: Publow
Hundred: Keynsham
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Clutton
Sub-registration district: Chew Magna
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 947
Book: 13
Folio: 19
Page Number: 20
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Hower 35 Butcher
Elizabeth Hower 35
William Hower 15
Caroline Flower 12
Louisa Flower 9
Ruth Flower 5
Edward Flower 4
Martha Flower 3

Thank you so much to you both. This has given me some more to follow up. :-D

1901?

Name: Edward Flower
Age: 65
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Bristol, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Chelsea
Ecclesiastical parish: St Simon
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: Living on own means

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Chelsea
Sub-registration district: Chelsea, North
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 430
Piece: 73
Folio: 119
Page Number: 48
Household Members:
Name Age
Sarah Cornell 46
Brey R G Cornell 18
Arthur W Perry 47
Mary Rogers 37
Edward Flower 65

1861:

FLOWER, Edward Head Married M 24 1837 Porter Bristol
FLOWER, Elizabeth A Wife Married F 24 1837 Dressmaker Bristol

Registration District: Bristol
Sub District: St Augustine
Enumeration District: 11
Ecclesiastical Parish:
Civil Parish: St Augustines
Municipal Borough: St Augustines

Address: 14, Orchard Street, St Augustines, Bristol
County: Gloucestershire

1871 from FMP:

FLOWER, Edward Head M 34 1837 Gloucestershire < Chemists Asst, Bristol
FLOWER, Elizabeth Wife F 34 1837 Gloucestershire
FLOWER, Edward W Son M 9 1862 Gloucestershire
FLOWER, Emma Eliz Daughter F 7 1864 Gloucestershire
FLOWER, Alice Florence Daughter F 5 1866 Gloucestershire
NOBBS, William Lodger M 23 1848 London
NOBBS, Barbara Lodger F 22 1849 Gloucestershire

Registration District: Clifton
Sub District: Ashley
Enumeration District: 15
Ecclesiastical Parish:
Civil Parish: St James & St Paul
Municipal Borough: Bristol

Address: Denbigh Street, St James & St Paul, Bristol
County: Gloucestershire

I have found him on the 1881 census, a widow with children; Edward W, Emma E and Alice F Flower. I have him dying in 1902, registered Chelsea. He married Elizabeth Ann Finch in Bristol 1860. I am having trouble finding them on earlier census' or him on the 1901. On the 1881 Edward senior is a chemists assistant. Any help would be great.

thanks

gina :-)