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Could someone please lookup, 1891 census for Thomas Murphy born about 1856 and Jane Murphy born about 1861
They had four daughters Eliza born about 1881, Jane 1882,Ellen 1884 and Louisa about 1888. All from Liverpool


Kind regards Sally

Jane is a widow in 1891, a charwoman. She and her daughters are boarders with John & Sarah Grehan?, 30 Elias St., Everton.

Hi Margee
He must have came back from the dead lol. I have them on the 1901 census with daughters Ellen,Louisa and Eliza with husband William Dodd and also a son Thomas. 1911 Census with a daughter Louisa and Grandchid Eliza.

Can you put 1901 details onto here, I can see Louisa but not Jane and Thomas.
Jan

Hi Jan
1901 household records
Thomas Murphy Age 44 Head
Jane Murphy " 40 Wife
Ellen Murphy " 17 Daughter
Louisa Muphy " 14 Daughter
Thomas Murphy " 9 Son
William Dodd " 21 Son inlaw
Eliza Dodd " 21 Daughter

sorry took so long had to type it!

Sally

Is this the 1911 you found?

MURPHY, Thomas Head Married
33 years M 55 1856 Fireman Ship Liverpool Lanc VIEW
MURPHY, Jane Wife Married F 50 1861 Liverpool Lanc VIEW
SMITH Daughter Widow F 23 1888 Servant Domestic Liverpool Lanc VIEW
SMITH, Eliza Niece Single F 2 1909 Liverpool Lanc VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
22532 Reference:
RG14PN22532 RG78PN1325 RD455 SD8 ED19 SN115

Registration District:
West Derby Sub District:
South Everton Enumeration District:
19 Parish:
Everton

Address:
24 Sampson St Everton Liverpool County:
Lancashire

Hi Alviegal
Yes thats them!

Sally

1891 does say she's a widow.

GREHAM, John Head Married M 43 1848 Dock Labourer
Liverpool
Lancashire VIEW
GREHAM, Sarah Wife Married F 40 1851
Liverpool
Lancashire VIEW
GREHAM, William Son Single M 13 1878 Dock Labourer
Liverpool
Lancashire VIEW
MURPHY, Jane Boarder Widow F 27 1864 Charwoman
Liverpool
Lancashire VIEW
MURPHY, Elizabeth Boarder F 11 1880
Liverpool
Lancashire VIEW
MURPHY, Jane Boarder F 9 1882
Liverpool
Lancashire VIEW
MURPHY, Ellen Boarder F 7 1884
Liverpool
Lancashire VIEW
MURPHY, Louisa Boarder F 4 1887
Liverpool
Lancashire VIEW
RG number:
RG12 Piece:
2952 Folio:
29 Page:
52

Registration District:
West Derby Sub District:
North Everton Enumeration District:
5 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Polycarp

Civil Parish:
Everton Municipal Borough:
Liverpool Address:
29, Elias Street, Everton, Liverpool County:
Lancashire

Hmmm! She says she's a widow in 1891 and she and her daughters are boarding with another family and then within a year she gives birth to a son named after the husband who is supposed to be dead. Then, lo and behold, in 1901 her husband is with her! I think it's a miracle1

And here is that elusive 1901!!

MURPHEY, Thomas Head Married M 44 1857 Engineers Labourer
Liverpool
Lancashire VIEW
MURPHEY, Jane Wife Married F 40 1861
Liverpool
Lancashire VIEW
MURPHEY, Helen Daughter Single F 17 1884 Servant (Hotel)
Liverpool
Lancashire VIEW
MURPHEY, Louisa Daughter Single F 14 1887
Liverpool
Lancashire VIEW
MURPHEY, Thomas Son M 9 1892
Liverpool
Lancashire VIEW
DODD, Wm Son-In-Law Married M 21 1880 Engineers Labourer
Liverpool
Lancashire VIEW
DODD, Eliza Daughter Married F 21 1880
Liverpool
Lancashire VIEW
RG number:
RG13 Piece:
3480 Folio:
149 Page:
2

Registration District:
West Derby Sub District:
South Everton Enumeration District:
6 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Timothys

Civil Parish:
Everton Municipal Borough:
Address:
27, Haigh Street, Everton County:
Lancashire

Its amazing isnt it??? lol
Maybe he had gone off, and she thought he was dead!
Who knows, then came back!


Thanks all, for your help

Sally

You're welcome, sorry we couldn't be more help. He did work on a ship so perhaps at the time of the 1891 census, she thought he had died. Who knows!
Maybe getting a copy of Thomas jnr birth certificate would confirm the father.

Liz

Just a tip - learn how to copy and paste, it saves a lot of time! One of the members on here told me how to do this, and it's been a godsend. Just ask if you wish to know.
Jan