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What was his army number so I can view his records,I can't seem to find them.

Maryb

For reference:
1901:

Name: Arthur Worrall
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Son
Father's name: William Worrall
Mother's name: Selina Worrall
Gender: Male
Where born: Sowe, Warwickshire, England
Civil parish: Hucknall Torkard
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Basford
Sub-registration district: Hucknall Torkard
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 151
Piece: 3156
Folio: 160
Page Number: 25
Household Members:
Name Age
William Worrall 46
Selina Worrall 47
Arthur Worrall 22
Florence E Worrall 18
Albert S Worrall 17
Elsie A Worrall 11
Oliver L Worrall 8

Regimental Number: 13126

Arthur Worrall married Lily Sulley Sept 1914 Notts Vol 7B Page771

Possibly correct but the snag is that on his attestation papers in September 1914 Arthur is shown as a widower. A Lily Worrall died aged 26 in 1918??

Deaths Dec 1918 (>99%)
Worrall Lily 26 Nottingham 7b 827

Another query being that the military record indicates that he was discharged as being unlikely to become an efficient soldier on 15/10/1914.

He may of course have re-enlisted perhaps under a slightly altered surname:

Name: Arthur Warrall
Birth Place: Warsgrave, Warwick
Residence: Whitwick, Leics
Death Date: 23 Apr 1917
Death Location: Mesopotamia
Enlistment Location: Wigston, Leics
Rank: Private
Regiment: Leicestershire Regiment
Battalion: 2nd Battalion
Number: 20626
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Theatre of War: Asiatic Theatres

It also asks have you resided with your dad or at present address for 3 years.
1911 and on Army records his dad is still in Basford Notts 50,Betinck Street?
The other address is Fowkes Lane Whitwick Nr Coalville Leicestershire.
So he must have been there Sept 1911??

I can't find that address in 1911,but Fowkes street shows up in Whitwick LE67.

Maryb

This Worrall claims to come from Yorkshire, but has a (daughter) called Selina - co-incidence?
1911
WORRALL, Arthur Head M 34 1877 Hewer Coal Miner Hawkesbury Yorks
JOHNSON, Herriett F 33 1878 Barnsley York
JOHNSON, Cyril M 6 1905 Hucknall Notts
JOHNSON, Selena Worral F 2 1909 Hucknall Notts
JOHNSON, Isaac Worrall M 1 1910 Warsop Notts
RG number: RG14 Piece: 20285 Reference:
RG14PN20285 RG78PN1215 RD428 SD1 ED12 SN115
Registration District: Mansfield Sub District: Warsop Enumeration District: 12 Parish: Warsop
Address: 21 Queen Street Warsop Nottinghamshire County: Nottinghamshire

Added:
Births Jun 1909
Johnson Selina Worrall Basford 7b 300

See thread posted 3/4/2011 about the same Arthur Worrall!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Maryb

hi

ARTHUR rejoined the army and died on 23rd april 1917

20626 Pte. Arthur Worrall, 2nd Leicesters, was killed in action on 23rd April 1917 aged 38. His body was not identified and he is, therefore, commemorated on the Basra Memorial in Iraq. Originally from Warwickshire, he lived at 50 Bentinck Street, Hucknall

these details were from a expert on hucknall ww1 dead

i have seen the marriage for lily but dismissed it as she was still alive in 1914

still baffled ????

Births Jun 1909 (>99%)
Johnson Selina Worrall Basford 7b 300

Births Mar 1911 (>99%)
Johnson Isaac W Mansfield 7b 83

It looks very much as if Arthur did not marry in the conventional sense.


???
Deaths Dec 1913 (>99%)
Johnson Harriet 33 Basford 7b 243

That looks good Patchem,but why do we have 2 thread on same person.


Maryb

i ask before but my genes is playing up and has been for days, so i cant find any of my old treads
sorry

but thank you all for your help

Claire,
It would have been better if you had added this request onto your other thread.
However, I hope we have been of help with a possible 1911 'family'.
Could it be worth getting one of the birth certificates that Jonesey and I have found, to see if Arthur is the Father - though it would not explain the Hawkesbury birthplace?

Added:
I think we cross-posted - my internet is playing up.

i will order a cert to see, and i did try to add it to old tread but its saying i have none, been playing up for days

but thank you all for your help

There is a marriage for a Isaac Johnson in 1940 in Basford to a Worrall she was born Basford 1919 mum nee Clarke.
Could this be Arthur's son??

Maryb

I have PM'd Claire about possible connection to the lady who Isaac married so fingers crossed.

Maryb