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I have been trying for some time to find my great grandfather, his name is Eaton William Keeling, he was born 1864 in Staffs Wolverahampton. His fathers name is on his wedding certificate is George Keeling. I cannot find his birth registration or baptism/christening anywhere. I would be very grateful for any information anyone has about him.


Lynne

I see what you mean! Plenty there 1891 onwards but no sign before.
Jan

If his birth was registered it should be on FreeBMD,however there were no penalties for late or non registrastion till 1875.
Have you looked for him on any census?

Do you have an occupation for George? This one is a labourer/gardener Address hard to read, Buckilln Lane???

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1871 England Census

Name: William Keeling
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Son
Father's name: George Keeling
Mother's name: Elizth Keeling
Gender: Male
Where born: Whampton
Civil parish: Wolverhampton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Wolverhampton
County/Island: Staffordshire

George Keeling 48
Elizth Keeling 45
John Keeling 18
Harriett Keeling 12
Edward Keeling 10
William Keeling 7

Is this the family in 1881?

Name: William Keeling
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Wolverhampton
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address: 100 Gt Brick Kiln St
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: ... Skinner

Registration district: Wolverhampton
Sub-registration district: Wolverhampton Western
Piece: 2796
Folio: 36
Page Number: 5
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Farlow 48
Hannah Farlow 36
Elizabeth Farlow 19
George Farlow 17
Hannah Farlow 15
Sarah J. Farlow 14
Samuel Farlow 5
Clara Farlow 1
George Keeling 70
Elizabeth Keeling 58
William Keeling 17 b. Wolverhampton

In case you don't have it..........


1911 census - household transcription
Person: KEELING, Eaton William
Address: 35 Gresham St Leicester


KEELING, Eaton William Head Married M 47 1864 Railway Porter Staff Wolverhampton VIEW
KEELING, Amelia Wife Married
20 years F 46 1865 Atherstone Warwick VIEW
KEELING, Doris Eveline Daughter F 13 1898 School Leicestershire Leicester VIEW
KEELING, Horace Cyril Son M 10 1901 School Leicestershire Leicester VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
19201 Reference:
RG14PN19201 RG78PN1150B RD407 SD1 ED37 SN182

Registration District:
Leicester Sub District:
North West Leicester Enumeration District:
37 Parish:
Leicester

Address:
35 Gresham St Leicester County:
Leicestershire
(6 children born, 2 living, sadly 4 had died)

wonder if he was known as William
1871 census
Name: William Keeling
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Son
Father's name: George Keeling
Mother's name: Elizth Keeling
Gender: Male
Where born: Whampton
Civil parish: Wolverhampton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Wolverhampton
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Wolverhampton
Sub-registration district: Wolverhampton Western
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Household schedule number: 72
Piece: 2932
Folio: 114
Page Number: 14
Household Members: Name Age
George Keeling 48 occ labourer-garden
Elizth Keeling 45
John Keeling 18
Harriett Keeling 12
Edward Keeling 10
William Keeling 7



Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 2932; Folio: 114; Page: 14; GSU roll: 836413.

we all on the same wavelengh ! :-D

In 1851 George and Elizabeth had a son George born c1844. He may have been William's (Eaton William) father. That would also make him Samuel Farlow's nephew by virtue of the fact that Hannah Farlow's maiden name was Keeling. They married in 1861.

1851:
Name: George Keeling
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1818
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Keeling
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Knosall, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Wolverhampton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

View image
Registration district: Wolverhampton
Sub-registration district: Wolverhampton Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel: 1f
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 42
Piece: 2019
Folio: 135
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
George Keeling 33
Elizabeth Keeling 39
George Keeling 7
Mary A Keeling 4

COULD THIS BE HIM IN 1871 BUT AS WILLIAM
his father is a labourer / gardiner
KEELING, George Head M 48 1823 Shropshire VIEW
KEELING, Elizth Wife F 45 1826 Shropshire VIEW
KEELING, John Son M 18 1853 Staffordshire VIEW
KEELING, Harriett Daughter F 12 1859 Staffordshire VIEW
KEELING, Edward Son M 10 1861 Staffordshire VIEW
KEELING, William Son M 7 1864 Staffordshire VIEW
RG number:
RG10 Piece:
2932 Folio:
114 Page:
14

Registration District:
Wolverhampton Sub District:
Wolverhampton, West Enumeration District:
17 Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Wolverhampton Municipal Borough:
Wolverhampton Address:
Brick Kiln Street, Great Court, Wolverhampton County:
Staffordshire

his baptism
Eaton William Keeling

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975


birth: 29 Jun 1863
residence: 1863 —Wolverhampton, Stafford, England
parents: George Keeling, Elizabeth

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Eaton William Keeling
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 05 Sep 1892
baptism/christening place: St. Andrews, Wolverhampton, Stafford, England
birth date: 29 Jun 1863
father's name: George Keeling
mother's name: Elizabeth
indexing project (batch) number: C01198-9
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1517619

could this be his parents marraige ?????
George Keeling

England Marriages, 1538–1973


birth: 1816
marriage: 17 Feb 1840 —Collegiate, Wolverhampton, Stafford, England
parents: John Keeling
spouse: Elizabeth Lloyd

record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973
groom's name: George Keeling
groom's birth date: 1816
groom's age: 24
bride's name: Elizabeth Lloyd
bride's birth date: 1820
bride's age: 20
marriage date: 17 Feb 1840
marriage place: Collegiate, Wolverhampton, Stafford, England
groom's father's name: John Keeling
indexing project (batch) number: I03176-8
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1040902

I wonder what made him feel the need to be baptised at the age of 29. Also strange is the fact that he was baptised in Wolverhampton in 1892 when he had married in Leicester in 1890, was living in Leicester at the time of the 1891 census and presumably lived there for the rest of his life, dying there in 1937.

In my tree I have someone who was baptised at the age of 28 just prior to getting married. He was born in Suffolk but was baptised in London where he was living at the time. I have always assumed that the probable reason for his late baptism was either at the request of either his bride to be or more likely at the request by the minister of the church where he was to be married.

Just spotted your comments Jonesey. I was baptised at the age of 21 - by choice. I had been born into a family of Salvationists where baptism is not recognised. I chose to follow the Anglican path. It CAN happen you know..... ;) Cx

Hi Cyn,

I do indeed know that it can happen but I think that there is usually some incident or event that encourages it during adulthood. It may be a revelation, a change of faith or perhaps maybe some such reason as I thought might be the case with my ancestor.

My comment about Eaton William Keeling was really as much about the fact that he chose to be baptised in the town of his birth rather than where he appears to have been living at the time.

I was baptised shortly after my birth but my wife was not baptised until she was in her late teens. In her case her mother and older sister had begun to attend their local Baptist church and she joined them. All 3 were baptised by full immersion at the same time.

Although I had been baptised, at the time I was due to be married I had become an Atheist but out of respect for my wife to be's views I accepted that getting married in a church meant a lot to her. I felt however that it would be wrong of me not to make my position clear to the minister beforehand. Consequently I went to speak to him well before the wedding and we agreed that the wording of the vows that I would make during the ceremony would be changed slightly from the usual. As a result whilst my wife made her vows to God and me, I made vows to her only. To the best of my knowledge nobody in the congregation ever noticed.

Perhaps as a result of the ministers tolerance plus other events in my life my faith returned.

:-D

Cx