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Good afternoon,
I am trying to locate my ancestors by the name of Carney in the Salford/Manchester area from the turn of the century. Thomas Carney married Florence Wallace in Salford on April 24th 1907. they lived at 15 boond st, Thomas was a beer retailer employed at the Flying dutchman in 1905/6 until the police closed it due to his customer base ( rogues apparently ) From his marriage certificate, I have hime down as being born in or around 1880, his Fathers name is believed to be Michael and they are rumoured to have hailed from Roscommon ( unsure whether town or county ) On a visit to the family history centre in Salford, I could find no trace of him in their archives, apart from a mention of Thomas Carney, Beer retailer in Cheetham Hill in Manchester in 1902 in a trade directory, no other information has been found to take me any further back from this point. Any help anyone could offer in moving on from here would be most appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Gavin
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1911?
WALLACE Head Widow F 65 1846 Boarding Housekeeper Bilston Staffordshire
CARNEY, Thomas Boarder Married M 30 1881 Labourer To Electrical Engineers Rosecommon Ireland Resident
CARNEY, Florence Boarder Married 5 years F 24 1887 Housework Salford Lancashire
CARNEY, Frances Daughter F 3 1908 Salford Lancashire
CARNEY, Lillian Daughter F 2 1909 Salford Lancashire
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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
23978 Reference:
RG14PN23978 RG78PN1382 RD465 SD2 ED2 SN276
Registration District:
Salford Sub District:
Broughton Enumeration District:
2 Parish:
Salford
Address:
15 Boond St Greengate Salford
Two children born, both still living. Mrs Wallace head of household (florence's mum?) is widowed, Married 28/ or 29 years, 8 children, 3 deceased by 1911. The info on Mrs Wallace had been crossed out
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Is his father not named on the marriage cert if you believe him to be Michael ?
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Thanks for the speedy replies,
Yes Kucinta, these are my Carneys anthe extent of my research really, Michael was named as his Father on thwe marriage certificate glitter baby, Yes, Apologies for my first message being so vague on that point
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This could be a possibility for 1901 if you think not I will delete so as not to confuse things.
1901 census - household transcription
Person: CARNEY, Tomas
Address: 108, Cross Lane, Salford
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Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation
Disability Where Born Original
census
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TWIST, Agnes Head Widow F 61 1840 Licensee Holder
Scotland VIEW
MADELEY, Clara Daughter Single F 27 1874 Barmaid
Salford
Lancashire VIEW
MADELEY, Florence Daughter Single F 24 1877 Barmaid
Salford
Lancashire VIEW
MADELEY, Agnes Grand Daughter Single F 11 1890
Salford
Lancashire VIEW
SMITH, William Visitor Single M 30 1871 Builders Clerk
Salford
Lancashire VIEW
MCKEEVER, Alice Servant Single F 20 1881 Domestic Servant
Salford
Lancashire VIEW
DANN, Florence Servant Single F 15 1886 Domestic Servant
Salford
Lancashire VIEW
CARNEY, Tomas Servant Single M 22 1879 Barman
Ireland VIEW <<<<<<<<<<<<
RG number:
RG13 Piece:
3734 Folio:
30 Page:
20
Registration District:
Salford Sub District:
Regent Road Enumeration District:
18 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Salford Christchurch
Civil Parish:
Salford Municipal Borough:
Address:
108, Cross Lane, Salford County:
Lancashire
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Thank you,
cross lane and greengate were only a mile or two away from each other and the barman link ties in Nicely, as do the birth year, the docks were only about half mile from cross lane so this could be how he made is way to Salford and why he is being so hard to trace.
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Hello again,
would anyone know If I could get hold of passenger lists for salford docks ?? if not, are there any other thomas carneys that I have not picked up on ???
Thanks in advance
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