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John or James Ross

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gardenpest29

gardenpest29 Report 12 Jun 2011 11:36

I have been trying to research my Husbands tree and have been having problems almost from the start....Grandfather is Andrew Percy ROSS 1915-1990 his parents were Eliza Emma BLOW & Alexander ROSS, the 1911 census show the family living at 8 Shirley Grove Battersea London Alexander says that he is a Baker and from Scotland.
I cannot find him on the 1901 census but on the 1891 census a Alexander Ross a Baker from Scotland is living with his parents John & Grace at 26 Stewarts Rd Battersea, so from this I work back and also look at the scotlandpeople web site and find a birth for Alexander Ross Feb 1872 parents John Ross & Grace McMillan, there is a marriage between these two people in 1871 Newcastle upon Tyne.........however having got the marriage certificate of Alexander and Eliza Emma Blow it lists father as being James Ross occupation Baker..Help please where have I gone wrong. :-\

ChristinaS

ChristinaS Report 12 Jun 2011 11:40

It could very well be the correct family. I have an ancestor who varied his name between John and James. I know he was definitely the same person.

gardenpest29

gardenpest29 Report 12 Jun 2011 11:44

Sorry should have said that the census records show that John Ross is a Gunmaker Actioner/Maker Of Gun Mechanism

Astra

Astra Report 12 Jun 2011 11:57

In 1911 he gives Nairnshire as his birthplace so this looks like him with his parents

Name: James Ross
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Isabella Ross
Gender: Male
Where born: Nairn, Nairnshire
Registration Number: 137A
Registration district: Forres Burgh
Civil parish: Forres
County: Moray
Address: 279 High St
>>Occupation: Baker Journeyman
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 57
Line: 3
Roll: CSSCT1871_25
Household Members: Name Age
>>>>James Ross 40 >>>>>Baker
Isabella Ross 30
John Ross 6
>>Alexander Ross 4
Andrew P Ross 1

Astra

Astra Report 12 Jun 2011 12:00

In 1891

Alexander Kalb
[Alexander Ross]
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Nairnshire, Scotland
Civil parish: St George The Martyr
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Magdalene
County/Island: London
Household Members: Name Age
Franz Kalb 58
Henrietta Kalb 68
Franz Kalb 29
Henrietta Kalb 23
Alexander Kalb 23 >>>>Mistranscribed. Ross on original>>>>Journeyman Baker born Nairnshire

Astra

Astra Report 12 Jun 2011 12:07

1881

James Ross
Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Isabella Ross
Gender: Male
Where born: Nairn, Nairnshire
Registration Number: 123
Registration district: Nairn
Civil parish: Nairn
County: Nairnshire
Address: 10 Wilson St
Occupation: Baker
Household Members: Name Age
James Ross 52
Isabella Ross 40
John Ross 16
>>Alexr Ross 14
Andrew Ross 11
Tomas Ross 9
Charles Ross 6
Jessie Ross 3 MO

Potty

Potty Report 12 Jun 2011 12:09

The 1881 Scotland census show the Alexander with parents John and Grace as being born Glasgow - so it looks as if Astra has found the correct family.

Astra

Astra Report 12 Jun 2011 12:12

1911

ROSS, Alexander Head Married M 42 1869 Bread Baker Scotland Noirnshire Resident VIEW
ROSS, Eliza Wife Married
19 years F 37 1874 London Battersea VIEW
ROSS, Alexander Son Single M 17 1894 Assistant London Battersea VIEW
ROSS, Margaret Daughter Single F 15 1896 London Battersea VIEW
ROSS, Jessie Daughter F 14 1897 London Battersea VIEW
ROSS, Jane Daughter F 9 1902 London Battersea VIEW
ROSS, James Son M 5 1906 London Battersea VIEW
ROSS, Charlie Son M 4 1907 London Battersea VIEW
ROSS, Hilda Daughter F 1 1910 London Battersea VIEW



Address:
8 Shirley Grove Lavender Hill Battersea SW County:
London

gardenpest29

gardenpest29 Report 12 Jun 2011 12:12

The address given on the marriage certificate is..20 Shirley Grove Battersea, the 1911 census address is 8 Shirley Grove and the address on the birth certificate of Husbands Grandfather in 1915 is 35 Shirley Grove so the Battersea area of London seems quite strong.

gardenpest29

gardenpest29 Report 12 Jun 2011 12:16

Thank you Astra, looks like I need to go back to square 1 and start again, sometimes it needs a fresh pair of eyes, your help is very much appricated.
K

Potty

Potty Report 12 Jun 2011 12:20

Possible birth for Alexander:

ALEXANDER ROSS Pedigree
Birth: 07 JAN 1867 Nairn, Nairn, Scotland
Parents:
Father: JAMES ROSS Family
Mother: ISABELLA MC DONALD

Astra

Astra Report 12 Jun 2011 12:22

1901 mistranscribed as Roes

ROES, Alexander Head Married M 31 1870 Journeyman Baker
Scotland VIEW
ROES, Eliza E Wife Married F 27 1874
London VIEW
ROES, Alexander Son M 7 1894
Battersea
London VIEW
ROES, Margaret Daughter F 5 1896
Battersea
London VIEW
ROES, Jessie E Daughter F 4 1897
Battersea
London VIEW
ROES, Rosina M Daughter F 2 1899
Battersea
London VIEW
ROES, Emma K Daughter F 1 1900
Battersea
London VIEW

Civil Parish:
Battersea Municipal Borough:
Address:
31, Wycliffe Road, Battersea County:
London

Potty

Potty Report 12 Jun 2011 12:22

And a marriage for James and Isabella (from the IGI - scotlandspeople should also have it and their parents' will be named):

JAMES ROSS Pedigree
Marriages:
Spouse: ISABELLA MCDONALD Family
Marriage: 31 JUL 1858 Nairn, Nairn, Scotland

gardenpest29

gardenpest29 Report 12 Jun 2011 12:29

Thank you Potty, your help has been very useful.
K