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I've hit a stumbling block in my tree and wonder whether anyone can assist. There were two births registered in Teesdale, (birthplaces Staindrop) both for John William Ling, both born 2 July 1876, one with the mother's maiden name as Sarah Wallis and the other with the name Sarah Wallace. I've also received information of the baptism of John William Linge on 25 JUNE 1876 so I suspect that what I've been told as a child - that my grandfather was born on 2 June (not July) may have been correct and one of the births was listed as 2 July to avoid any clash with legalities of registering within 45 ? days. My cousin hopes he's not been chasing the wrong line.

Can anyone shed any light on this or has anyone come across this happening before?

Quite common to lie about a birth date when registering late.....

And the double entry may simply reflect that the mother didn't know how to spell her surname.........so the registrar put a couple of versions.........

I assume that you have checked that there were not two marriages......and that you have looked for your family members in 1881?

If you have the baptism info, you must know the father's name...........

Births Sep 1876 (>99%)
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Linge John William Teesdale 10a 271
Linge John William Teesdale 10a 272


This seems very familiar.......have you another thread on the subject?

See also

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1271555

This is familiar because I've been trying to trace John William Linge before and assumed that 'my' JWL's mother was surname Wallis.

However, I've spoken to the Bishop Auckland Registry which covers Teesdale (Staindrop) and there are indeed two separate birth certificates winging their way to me; one with the father, William (mmn Wallace), and the other, John (mmn Wallis).

This is why I'm now tracing Sarah Wallis/Wallace to see which one could be 'mine' because my cousin who started this branch family history assumed it was Wallis - now neither of us is sure!

The Registrar has never encountered this situation before and she has kindly offered to dig further, eg deaths etc.

This is the Sarah Wallis connected with my other thread, Sarah Linge.

I've assumed that Sarah Wallis's parents were George and Mary Ann (nee Day). I may be wrong.

Hello again Joyce - you really need to add this request to your previous thread (link above from Joseph.)

Sorry, MarieCeleste, thought as Linge was paternal side I'd keep it separate from Joseph (maternal side).

Should I put all of my requests onto one thread?

Joyce, in this instance - yes. They relate to the same family and the info cross references.

My Sarah Wallis (b abt. 1850 in Essex) died in the Auckland, Durham in 1878; I bought a copy of her death certificate.

However, I'm not sure of her parentage. She married John Linge (b abt 1847) in 1869.

I always thought her parents were George and Mary Ann but someone's cast doubt in my mind by asking whether her parents were actually George and Fanny.

Can anyone help with Sarah's parents, please?

Joyce where did she marry and have you the marriage cert please? Which should tell you her fathers name.

Is this your family plese?

1871 England Census
about John Lings
Name: John Lings
[John Linge]
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Lings
Gender: Male
Where born: Mayland, Essex, England
Civil parish: Steeple
Ecclesiastical parish: Dengie Essex and Rochester
Town: Stansgate
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Registration district: Maldon
Sub-registration district: Southminster
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 5
Piece: 1671
Folio: 81
Page Number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
John Lings 23
Sarah Lings 20 Born Writtle Essex.
Esther J Lings 1

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Sarah Wallis
Name: Sarah Wallis
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1869
Registration district: Maldon
Inferred County: Essex
Volume Number: 4a
Page Number: 287

John Linge Apr-May-Jun 1869 Maldon Essex

Buy this and it will tell you her fathers name andx occupation.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about Sarah Linge
Name: Sarah Linge
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1878
Age at Death: 28
Registration district: Auckland
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 10a
Page: 125

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about John Linge
Name: John Linge
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1879
Registration district: Maldon
Inferred County: Essex
Volume Number: 4a
Page Number: 407

John Linge Apr-May-Jun 1879 Maldon Essex

Elizabeth Thorogood Apr-May-Jun 1879 Maldon Essex


1881 England Census
about W. John Linjie
Name: W. John Linjie
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Son
Father's name: John Linje
Mother's name: Elizabeth Linje
Gender: Male
Where born: Staindrop, Durham, England

Civil parish: Althorne
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address: Wilsons New Cottage

Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Maldon
Sub-registration district: Southminster
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1773
Folio: 67
Page Number: 12
Household Members: Name Age
John Linje 33
Elizabeth Linje 19
Sarah Linjie 9
Alice Linjie 6
W. John Linjie 4

1891 England Census
about John Lenge
Name: John Lenge
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Lenge
Gender: Male
Where born: Mayland, Essex, England

Civil parish: Hawkwell
Ecclesiastical parish: Hawkwell
Town: Hawkwell
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Registration district: Rochford
Sub-registration district: Rochford
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1393
Folio: 51
Page Number: 12
Household Members: Name Age
John Lenge 43
Elizabeth Lenge 30
John W Lenge 14 Born North East
Phebe Lenge 7
Robert Lenge 4
Sidney Lenge 1
Baby Lenge 2 Weeks


1901 England Census
about John Linge
Name: John Linge
Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Linge
Gender: Male
Where born: Mayland, Essex, England

Civil parish: Barling
Ecclesiastical parish: Barling All Saints
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Rochford
Sub-registration district: Great Wakering
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 59
Piece: 1685
Folio: 42
Page Number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
John Linge 52
Elizabeth Linge 40
Sidney Linge 11
Muly Linge 8
Herbert Linge 6
Alfred Linge 6 Months

My Sarah Wallis married John Linge in Essex in 1869. I have most family details, eg children and John's second marriage.

I also have my Sarah's death certificate - she was 28 and died in 1878, death registered in the Auckland District, Durham but because there are more than two Sarah Wallises born between 1848 and 1852 in Essex I have not bought any birth certificates.

I was hoping that someone would know (probably from marriage details) whether Sarah's parents were George and Mary Ann - he had two wives called Mary - or George and Fanny)... I don't want to go to the expense of buying a few birth certificates if it's still unclear which Sarah Wallis married John Linge.

Incidentally, I still have a buckshee birth certificate for John William Linge son of William and Sarah Linge (formerly Wallace), born 2 July 1876. Anyone who claims him as theirs can have the certificate.

Think I've got the Linges sorted back to the 1770s - thank you to all.

But which is my Sarah Wallis?

To compound matters, I've discovered James Linge married a Sarah Willis and I know nothing about her yet.

These Linge lads must have loved the sound of Sarah Wallis/Willis.

Buy the marriage cert of John and Sarah and it will tell you her fathers name and occupation. I have already told you this on the 19th July at 10.42am..

Yes, I know, Mel Fairy Godmother but ...

I was hoping that someone with my or one of the other Sarahs in his/her background would point me in the right direction for how would one tell which parentage one's Sarah had with only the father's name?

Three sets of parents:

George and Mary
George and Mary
George and Fanny

Now do you see my dilemma?