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Hi, I have received the marriage certificate for my great great great Grandad James Bowcock and it says he was 39 at the time of his marriage in March 1850, which gives him a birth year of around 1811.
His father's name is given John Bowcock , a 'dresser'., my great X 4Grandad.
I'm assuming a birth at least 16 years before his son James was born, but haven't turned up anything solid here at GR. Could you please help me find him, I 'm pretty sure it will either be Salford, Manchester, Prestwich or Chorlton areas (Lancashire).
I know the rule about quick replies to any help, but right now I must leave and will return in about 30 minutes. I appreciate your help.

Sorry, should be a question mark after 'could you please help me find him?'

there is this one
James Bowcock

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975


residence: Manchester, Lancashire, England
parents: John Bowcock, Charlotte Bowcock

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: James Bowcock
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 24 Dec 1809
baptism/christening place: Collegiate, Manchester, Lancashire, England
father's name: John Bowcock
mother's name: Charlotte Bowcock
indexing project (batch) number: I04352-9
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1545576

1851 England Census about James Bowcock
Name: James Bowcock
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann Bowcock
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Salford, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrews
Town: Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: London Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 1cc
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 67
Piece: 2228
Folio: 52
Page Number: 19
Household Members:
Name Age
James Bowcock 40 Dyer
Ann Bowcock 28
Richard Bowcock 14
John Bowcock 12
Eleanor Bowcock 8
Hewin Bowcock 5
Samuel Bowcock 3
James Bowcock 11/12
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Is this his marriage?

JAMES BOWCOCK Pedigree
Male Family

Marriages:
Spouse: ANN DONE Family
Marriage: 06 MAR 1850 Cathedral, Manchester, Lancashire, England


Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.

National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107 Piece: 572 Book/Folio: 13/35 Page: 15

Reg. District: Manchester Sub District: The London Road
Parish: Manchester Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Manchester
Address: Boad Street, Manchester
County: Lancashire
Name Relation Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born


BOWCOCK, James M 30 1811 Lancashire
BOWCOCK, Elizabeth F 28 1813 Lancashire
BOWCOCK, James M 10 1831 Lancashire
BOWCOCK, Richard M 5 1836 Lancashire
BOWCOCK, John M 3 1838 Lancashire

Thank you Lindsey, it;'s my fault I worded my request badly, it is Jame's father John Bowcock's birth I am looking for, and possible wife etc.

I already have the same JAmes Bowcock details that you found above and yes Ann was James' second wife.

I think you have found the correct John in your first post, as the mother is given as Charlotte in your babtism entry and James went on to name his daughter Charlotte. It looks promising...thank you.

Any possible birth or census entry for his father John would be great..thanks again.

Thank you Helen, that is Jame's first wife Elizabeth who died.

Yes Mel Fairy that Marriage is correct.

there is this one
John Bowcock

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975


residence: Lancashire, England
parents: William Bowcock, Charlott

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: John Bowcock
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 13 Apr 1794
baptism/christening place: CATHEDRAL,MANCHESTER,LANCASHIRE,ENGLAND
father's name: William Bowcock
mother's name: Charlott
indexing project (batch) number: C00546-7
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 443327

parents marraige ????
Marriage: 22 Dec 1789 Collegiate, Manchester, Lancashire, England
William Bowcock - (X), Painter of this Parish & Town of Manchester
Charlotte Stopford - (X), Spinster of Manchester
Witness: Joseph Barratt; Dennis Browe
Banns Read: 31 May 1789, 2nd: 7 Jun 1789, 3rd: 14 Jun 1789
Married by Banns by: John Griffith
Register: Marriages 1789, Page 227, Entry 893
Source: LDS Film 2356675

thank you very much Maddie. I turned up a John Bowcock 45 in the 1841 census, the other hardly legible though apart from a Betsy.

I don't know if the other sites would turn up anything more legible?

Joe, might this be the 1841 in question?

BOWCOCK, John M 45 1796 Lancashire < Fisherman?
BOWCOCK, Elizabeth F 30 1811 Lancashire
BOWCOCK, Mary F 4 1837 Lancashire
ROYLE, Betsy F 20 1821 Lancashire

Registration District: Salford
Sub District: Greengate
Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:
Civil Parish: Manchester
Municipal Borough: Salford

Address: Johnson's Yard, Manchester, Salford County: Lancashire

** Not sure how the transcriber recorded that from such a faint image. Not sure, but think surname on original might be Bowman.

Yes, MarieCeleste that is the same one, though you seem to be saying perhaps the transcriber got it wrong. I agree with you it looks more like Bowman not Bowcock.

Would it be possible instead then to check for a marriage for a John Bowcock around the time of James' birth in 1809, in Lancashire perhaps?

MAybe looking a few years before in case he wasn't a first child?

Thanks!

I think John's wife might be called Elizabeth, and he was a Fustian Dresser.

(not a fussy dresser). :-)

hi Joe
had a look on family search and on lancashire on line parish clerks
only these one came up
Banns: St Bartholomew, Colne, Lancashire, England
John Bulcock - of Colne
Betty Drake - of Whalley
Banns Read: 21 Feb 1808, 2nd: 28 Feb 1808, 3rd: 6 Mar 1808
Register: Banns of Marriage 1805 - 1809, Page 54, Entry 8
Source: LDS Film 1471065

John Bowcock

England Marriages, 1538–1973


marriage: 14 Jan 1811 —Cathedral, Manchester, Lancashire, England
spouse: Jane Rayner

record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973
groom's name: John Bowcock
bride's name: Jane Rayner
marriage date: 14 Jan 1811
marriage place: Cathedral,Manchester,Lancashire,England
indexing project (batch) number: M00546-4
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 438189

That second one looks more promising, thank you Maddie, though

it doesn't fit with the babtism given up top , where James's Mum is Charlotte.

So maybe the Babtism is wrong or maybe the marriage. In every census James' birth date is given as 1811, now that would fit this last marriage you have posted for his father John, and the Cathedral fits too as James was also married there I believe.
Thanks for all your efforts!

I hope you find the right one
regards
maddie