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England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005

Name: Ellen L Gainsbury
Spouse Surname: Dadson
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1956
Registration district: Surrey South Western
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume Number: 5g
Page Number: 1355
Find Spouse: Douglas Dadson


England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005

Name: Ellen Laura Dadson
Birth Date: 11 Sep 1897
Date of Registration: Jan 1987
Age at Death: 89
Registration district: Surrey South-Western
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 17
Page: 1242

Thanks all , I think that is a very likely reason, not one of the certs I most need at the moment though.

I did find a marriage for Ellen L Gainsbury to Douglas W Dadson S W Surrey 1956 so possibly she remarried and a death of Ellen Laura Dadson in same reg district in 1987 (DOB given 11/09/1897)

could have been a year out on giving the birth date when registering the death , reasonable ?

Births Mar 1912 (>99%)
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Gainsbury James D Hopkin Erpingham 4b 115

1911

GAINSBURY, Leonard Head Married M 32 1879 School Teacher Cambridgeshire Wisbech VIEW
GAINSBURY, Hephzitah Wife Married
9 years F 30 1881 Cambs March VIEW
GAINSBURY, Leonard Son M 6 1905 School Kent Faversham VIEW
GAINSBURY, John Son M 3 1908 Cambs Wisbech VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
11178 Reference:
RG14PN11178 RG78PN608 RD222 SD1 ED16 SN140

Registration District:
Erpingham Sub District:
Cromer Enumeration District:
16 Parish:
Southrepps

Address:
Southrepps Norwich Norfolk County:
Norfolk

Possibly this Ellen on the 1911 census:-

SCOTT, George Head Married M 53 1858 Steam Riser Scotland
SCOTT, Sarah Wife Married 33 years F 55 1856 Norwich Norfolk
SCOTT, Hilda Daughter Single F 19 1892 Shop Assistant Norwich Norfolk
SCOTT, Ellen Daughter Single F 12 1899 School Norwich Norfolk

Address:
27 St John St Rose Lane Norwich

Reference:
RG14PN11262 RG78PN613 RD225 SD1 ED8 SN268

Kath. x

Could be - which is perhaps why there are no children as she was older.

You would need the marriage certificate to see if it names her father then you could check this on the 1901 census.

Kath. x

I'm wondering if she was older than him as there is a birth in Norwich for a Ellen Laura Scott in 1898

jan

I can't see any births for this couple on Findmypast either in England or on the Army births.

Kath. x

ok thanks, wonder if they had any children ?

Two possible births for Ellen:-

Name: SCOTT, Ellen L
Registration District: West Ham
County: Essex
Year of Registration: 1919
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Mother's Maiden Name: Tyson
Volume No: 4A
Page No: 585

or:-

Name: SCOTT, Ellen L
Registration District: Wandsworth
County: London
Year of Registration: 1921
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Mother's Maiden Name: Standring
Volume No: 1D
Page No: 987

I can't find a birth in Norfolk.

Kath. x

well what do you know !

thanks

Jan

It looks as if they did marry abroad (from Findmypast):-

Name: GAINSBURY, James
Place: Meerut
Country: Indian Subcontinent
Year: 1939
Page: 206
Spouse's last name: Scott
Record source: GRO Index Army Marriages (1881 to 1955)

Name: SCOTT, Ellen L
Place: Meerut
Country: Indian Subcontinent
Year: 1939
Page: 206
Spouse's last name: Gainsbury
Record source: GRO Index Army Marriages (1881 to 1955)

Kath. x

thanks for trying, yes I have that info, was just frustrating to have her name and not find a marriage for them, perhaps they didn't ever marry .

I can't find a marriage for them. Could they have married abroad?

This looks like James's parent's marriage:-

Name: GAINSBURY, Leonard B
Registration District: North Witchford
County: Cambridgeshire
Year of Registration: 1902
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume No: 3B
Page No: 936

On the same page is Hephzibah Hopkin.

And James's birth:-

Name: GAINSBURY, James B
Registration District: Erpingham
County: Norfolk
Year of Registration: 1912
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Mother's Maiden Name: Hopkin
Volume No: 4B
Page No: 115

Kath. x

This is the wording on CWGC site

8th July 1944. Age 32. Son of Leonard and Hephzibah Gainsbury; husband of Ellen Laura (Peggy) Gainsbury of Norwich. V. G. 1.

Can anyone find me a suitable marriage for James and Ellen Laura (Peggy)?

I am having trouble finding one.

many thanks

Janet