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1911 Lookup, Please

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Sarah-Lou

Sarah-Lou Report 19 Jun 2011 15:05

Could any kind person please find Bartholomew Smith - b. 1884 Wanstead (Leytonstone), Essex - in the 1911 census for me? Last seen in the 1901 aged 16 years old, working as a Butcher's Assistant living in Cobbold Road, Leytonstone, Essex. Other household members may also be of interest. Many thanks!
Sarah-Lou (descendant of Bartholomew's sister Naomi)

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 19 Jun 2011 15:19

I can't find him anywhere.

I can only see one Bartholomew Smith born at the right time and he is in Yorkshire and says he was born there.

Kath. x

Flick

Flick Report 19 Jun 2011 15:21

No sign of him in 1911....

Who were his parents?

Maddie

Maddie Report 19 Jun 2011 15:23

is this him
1891
1891 England Census about Bartholome Smith
Name: Bartholome Smith
[Bartholomew Smith]
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Erman Smith
Gender: Male
Where born: Wanstead Slip, Essex, England

Civil parish: Wanstead
Ecclesiastical parish: St Margaret
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: Leyton
ED, institution, or vessel: 43
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1350
Folio: 80
Page Number: 48
Household Members:
Name Age
Erman Smith 51
William Smith 10
Bertie Smith 8
Lizzie Smith 7
Bartholome Smith 6

Flick

Flick Report 19 Jun 2011 15:23

1891 for INFO

Name: Bartholome Smith
[Bartholomew Smith]
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Erman Smith
Gender: Male
Where born: Wanstead Slip, Essex, England

Civil parish: Wanstead
Ecclesiastical parish: St Margaret
County/Island: Essex
Country: England


Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: Leyton
ED, institution, or vessel: 43
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1350
Folio: 80
Page Number: 48
Household Members: Name Age
Erman Smith 51 *****************Susan
William Smith 10
Bertie Smith 8
Lizzie Smith 7
Bartholome Smith 6

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 19 Jun 2011 15:23

I think this is Bartholomew in the 1901 census with his widowed mother:-

SMITH, Susan Head Widow F 62 1839 Pedlar
Baldock Hertfordshire
SMITH, Nathan Son Single M 20 1881 Butchers Assistant
Leytonstone Essex
SMITH, Bartholomew Son Single M 16 1885 Butchers Assistant
Leytonstone Essex <<<<<<<<<<<

Address:
36, (The Ebenezer), Cobbold Road, Cann Hall


RG number:
RG13 Piece:
1611 Folio:
144 Page:
34


Kath. x

Maddie

Maddie Report 19 Jun 2011 15:26

probably highly unlikely but posted it anyway
passenger transcript details
Name: Bartholomew SMITH
Date of departure: 4 September 1925
Port of departure: Liverpool
Passenger destination port: Montreal, Canada
Passenger destination: Montreal, Canada
Date of Birth: 1884 (calculated from age)
Age: 41
Marital status:
Sex: Male
Occupation: Physician
Passenger recorded on: Page 14 of 28

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The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -
Elizabeth SMITH Page 4 of 28 View transcript
Elsie Maud SMITH Page 16 of 28 View transcript
Margaret SMITH Page 13 of 28 View transcript
William SMITH Page 2 of 28 View transcript
Ship:
Official Number:
Master's name:
Steamship Line:
Where bound:
Square feet:
Registered tonnage:
Passengers on voyage:

MEGANTIC
127981
E L Trant
White Star
Montreal, Canada
6985
14878

tempest

tempest Report 19 Jun 2011 15:27

is this his brother and mother on 1911 census?

13 children born to marriage, 7 still living, 6 had died by 1911

Address: 36 Cobbold Road Leytonstone

Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

SMITH, Susan Head Widow F 72 1839 Pedlar Herts Baldock
SMITH, Nathan Son Single M 30 1881 Butcher Journeyman Essex Leytonstone

Maddie

Maddie Report 19 Jun 2011 15:34

this is him
address 36 cobbald road

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 about Bartholom Smith
Name: Bartholom Smith
Birth Date: abt 1884
Age: 41
Port of Departure: Montréal, Québec, Canada
Arrival Date: 1 Aug 1925
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ports of Voyage: Quebec
Ship Name: Megantic
Search Ship Database: View the 'Megantic' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: White Star Line
Official Number: 127981

he is an attendant

Maddie

Maddie Report 19 Jun 2011 15:38

think this is him again, address leytonestone
a medical orderly
UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 about Bartholomew Smith
Name: Bartholomew Smith
Birth Date: abt 1884
Age: 46
Port of Departure: Montréal, Québec, Canada
Arrival Date: 21 Sep 1930
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Plymouth
Ship Name: Aurania
Search Ship Database: View the 'Aurania' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Cunard Line
Official Number: 147277

Maddie

Maddie Report 19 Jun 2011 15:40

again
address 179 newport road leytonestone
he is retired
UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 about Bartholomew Smith
Name: Bartholomew Smith
Birth Date: abt 1885
Age: 46
Port of Departure: Montréal, Québec, Canada
Arrival Date: 29 Jun 1931
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Quebec
[Plymouth]
Ship Name: Alaunia
Search Ship Database: View the 'Alaunia' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Cunard Line
Official Number: 147315

Sarah-Lou

Sarah-Lou Report 19 Jun 2011 17:07

Thanks very much to all!

Maddie, your posts are intriguing ... it's known that Bartholomew's elder brother had emigrated to Canada in 1912 - and with the Cobbold Road address (where his mother Susan lived until her death in 1926) on the 1925 incoming list, it's a dead cert that it's him. How interesting ...
Are you able to access the details of the other Smiths on outgoing 1925 list? In my notes for Bartholomew I have the following:

"Bartholomew ("Barty") SMITH:... married Grace COULDEN in the June Q of 1917 in West Ham District, Essex; (Grace was) born Bet. Apr - Jun 1889 in West Ham District, Essex. No children born to SMITH & COULDEN after 1917 have been found at the FreeBMD website. Did they move to Canada?"

Cheers!

Sarah-Lou