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Sarah-Lou
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19 Jun 2011 15:05 |
Could any kind person please find Bartholomew Smith - b. 1884 Wanstead (Leytonstone), Essex - in the 1911 census for me? Last seen in the 1901 aged 16 years old, working as a Butcher's Assistant living in Cobbold Road, Leytonstone, Essex. Other household members may also be of interest. Many thanks! Sarah-Lou (descendant of Bartholomew's sister Naomi)
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KathleenBell
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19 Jun 2011 15:19 |
I can't find him anywhere.
I can only see one Bartholomew Smith born at the right time and he is in Yorkshire and says he was born there.
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19 Jun 2011 15:21 |
No sign of him in 1911....
Who were his parents?
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Maddie
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19 Jun 2011 15:23 |
is this him 1891 1891 England Census about Bartholome Smith Name: Bartholome Smith [Bartholomew Smith] Age: 6 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885 Relation: Son Mother's name: Erman Smith Gender: Male Where born: Wanstead Slip, Essex, England Civil parish: Wanstead Ecclesiastical parish: St Margaret County/Island: Essex Country: England Street Address:
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Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: West Ham Sub-registration district: Leyton ED, institution, or vessel: 43 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1350 Folio: 80 Page Number: 48 Household Members: Name Age Erman Smith 51 William Smith 10 Bertie Smith 8 Lizzie Smith 7 Bartholome Smith 6
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19 Jun 2011 15:23 |
1891 for INFO
Name: Bartholome Smith [Bartholomew Smith] Age: 6 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885 Relation: Son Mother's name: Erman Smith Gender: Male Where born: Wanstead Slip, Essex, England Civil parish: Wanstead Ecclesiastical parish: St Margaret County/Island: Essex Country: England Registration district: West Ham Sub-registration district: Leyton ED, institution, or vessel: 43 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1350 Folio: 80 Page Number: 48 Household Members: Name Age Erman Smith 51 *****************Susan William Smith 10 Bertie Smith 8 Lizzie Smith 7 Bartholome Smith 6
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KathleenBell
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19 Jun 2011 15:23 |
I think this is Bartholomew in the 1901 census with his widowed mother:-
SMITH, Susan Head Widow F 62 1839 Pedlar Baldock Hertfordshire SMITH, Nathan Son Single M 20 1881 Butchers Assistant Leytonstone Essex SMITH, Bartholomew Son Single M 16 1885 Butchers Assistant Leytonstone Essex <<<<<<<<<<<
Address: 36, (The Ebenezer), Cobbold Road, Cann Hall
RG number: RG13 Piece: 1611 Folio: 144 Page: 34
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Maddie
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19 Jun 2011 15:26 |
probably highly unlikely but posted it anyway passenger transcript details Name: Bartholomew SMITH Date of departure: 4 September 1925 Port of departure: Liverpool Passenger destination port: Montreal, Canada Passenger destination: Montreal, Canada Date of Birth: 1884 (calculated from age) Age: 41 Marital status: Sex: Male Occupation: Physician Passenger recorded on: Page 14 of 28 Printer friendly version Click here to view image The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: - Elizabeth SMITH Page 4 of 28 View transcript Elsie Maud SMITH Page 16 of 28 View transcript Margaret SMITH Page 13 of 28 View transcript William SMITH Page 2 of 28 View transcript Ship: Official Number: Master's name: Steamship Line: Where bound: Square feet: Registered tonnage: Passengers on voyage: MEGANTIC 127981 E L Trant White Star Montreal, Canada 6985 14878
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19 Jun 2011 15:27 |
is this his brother and mother on 1911 census?
13 children born to marriage, 7 still living, 6 had died by 1911 Address: 36 Cobbold Road Leytonstone Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born SMITH, Susan Head Widow F 72 1839 Pedlar Herts Baldock SMITH, Nathan Son Single M 30 1881 Butcher Journeyman Essex Leytonstone
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Maddie
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19 Jun 2011 15:34 |
this is him address 36 cobbald road
UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 about Bartholom Smith Name: Bartholom Smith Birth Date: abt 1884 Age: 41 Port of Departure: Montréal, Québec, Canada Arrival Date: 1 Aug 1925 Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England Ports of Voyage: Quebec Ship Name: Megantic Search Ship Database: View the 'Megantic' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Shipping line: White Star Line Official Number: 127981
he is an attendant
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Maddie
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19 Jun 2011 15:38 |
think this is him again, address leytonestone a medical orderly UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 about Bartholomew Smith Name: Bartholomew Smith Birth Date: abt 1884 Age: 46 Port of Departure: Montréal, Québec, Canada Arrival Date: 21 Sep 1930 Port of Arrival: London, England Ports of Voyage: Plymouth Ship Name: Aurania Search Ship Database: View the 'Aurania' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Shipping line: Cunard Line Official Number: 147277
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Maddie
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19 Jun 2011 15:40 |
again address 179 newport road leytonestone he is retired UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 about Bartholomew Smith Name: Bartholomew Smith Birth Date: abt 1885 Age: 46 Port of Departure: Montréal, Québec, Canada Arrival Date: 29 Jun 1931 Port of Arrival: London, England Ports of Voyage: Quebec [Plymouth] Ship Name: Alaunia Search Ship Database: View the 'Alaunia' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Shipping line: Cunard Line Official Number: 147315
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Sarah-Lou
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19 Jun 2011 17:07 |
Thanks very much to all!
Maddie, your posts are intriguing ... it's known that Bartholomew's elder brother had emigrated to Canada in 1912 - and with the Cobbold Road address (where his mother Susan lived until her death in 1926) on the 1925 incoming list, it's a dead cert that it's him. How interesting ... Are you able to access the details of the other Smiths on outgoing 1925 list? In my notes for Bartholomew I have the following:
"Bartholomew ("Barty") SMITH:... married Grace COULDEN in the June Q of 1917 in West Ham District, Essex; (Grace was) born Bet. Apr - Jun 1889 in West Ham District, Essex. No children born to SMITH & COULDEN after 1917 have been found at the FreeBMD website. Did they move to Canada?"
Cheers!
Sarah-Lou
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