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Charles Ernest Jones BD1898 Clifton Hill Vic Aust

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Rhonda

Rhonda Report 21 Jun 2011 10:28

looking for any records on Charles Ernest Jones and his parents Father Enoch Jones Mother Annie :-)

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 21 Jun 2011 10:43

Do you know what Enoch's occupation was?

The Australian Electoral Rolls 1903~1954 only seem to list one Enoch Jones in Victoria so it may be him.

Rhonda

Rhonda Report 21 Jun 2011 10:49

Hi, Enoch Jones is listed as an Engineer Thanks Rhonda

TonyOz

TonyOz Report 21 Jun 2011 10:55

Hi Rhonda.

I sold newspapers in the 1950s in Clifton Hill :-)

Mmmm..a JONES marrying a JONES...s'pose he could have married a SMITH!!....:-D

JONES, Enoch CM 496862 Marriage
Spouse: JONES, Mary Ann
Marriage Place
Reg Year: 1886
Reg State: Victoria
Ref Number:6753

Births registered in Victoria: ( Digger Index )

Surname: JONES
Given Names: Chas
Event: B
Sex: M
Spouse Surname/Father: Enoch
Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary Ann JONES
Age:
Age Code:
Birth Place: C HILL ( Clifton Hill )
Death Place:
Year: 1897
Reg. Number: 18046

Siblings:

Surname: JONES
Given Names: Ebenezer
Event: B
Sex: M
Spouse Surname/Father: Enoch
Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary Ann JONES
Age:
Age Code:
Birth Place: MT EGERTON
Death Place:
Year: 1893
Reg. Number: 24922

Surname: JONES
Given Names: Harry
Event: B
Sex: M
Spouse Surname/Father: Enoch
Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary Ann JONES
Age:
Age Code:
Birth Place: SPOL ( Sebastopol ) - Ballarat
Death Place:
Year: 1900
Reg. Number: 6378

Surname: JONES
Given Names: Rachel Estella May
Event: B
Sex: F
Spouse Surname/Father: Enoch
Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary Ann JONES
Age:
Age Code:
Birth Place: MT EGERTON
Death Place:
Year: 1889
Reg. Number: 24364

Surname: JONES
Given Names: Winifred
Event: B
Sex: F
Spouse Surname/Father: Enoch
Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary Ann JONES
Age:
Age Code:
Birth Place: MT EGERTON
Death Place:
Year: 1891
Reg. Number: 25828

Surname: JONES
Given Names: Mary Ann
Event: B
Sex: F
Spouse Surname/Father: Enoch
Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary Ann JONES
Age:
Age Code:
Birth Place: MT EGERTON
Death Place:
Year: 1902
Reg. Number: 12428

Tony ( Melbourne )

Rhonda

Rhonda Report 21 Jun 2011 11:05

Thanks TonyOz this will be a great help Im in Sydney only been to Melbourne once Rhonda

TonyOz

TonyOz Report 21 Jun 2011 11:11

Hi Rhonda.

Dont come to Melbourne...its Freezing.... :-D


Enoch married Mary Ann in Victoria.

A.V.R.I ( Australian Vital Records Index ) states he was born in South Australia.

I can seach S.A for you.....if you need his birth date ( if its listed )


One other birth in in 1887 ( A.V.R.I )

JONES, William CB 1061319 Birth
Father: Enoch
Mother: Jones Mary Ann
Event Place: Eger
Reg Year: 1887
Reg State: Victoria
Ref Number: 13387


Tony :-)

Rhonda

Rhonda Report 21 Jun 2011 11:20

Hi Tony its freezzzzzzzing here too, any help you can give would be great, regards Rhonda :-)

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 21 Jun 2011 11:21

The Enoch Jones who appears in the Australian Electoral Rolls has the occupation of Engine Driver so it could tie in with engineer.

Name: Enoch Jones
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1903
State: Victoria
District: Corinella
Subdistrict: Egerton

Name: Enoch Jones
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1909
State: Victoria
District: Corio
Subdistrict: Ballan

Name: Enoch Jones
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1914
State: Victoria
District: Melbourne Ports
Subdistrict: Footscray

Name: Enoch Jones
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1919
State: Victoria
District: Ballaarat
Subdistrict: Lal Lal


Name: Enoch Jones
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1924
State: Victoria
District: Ballaarat
Subdistrict: Lal Lal

Name: Enoch Jones
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1931
State: Victoria
District: Ballaarat
Subdistrict: Lal Lal

Name: Enoch Jones
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1936
State: Victoria
District: Ballaarat
Subdistrict: Lal Lal

Name: Enoch Jones
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1937
State: Victoria
District: Ballaarat
Subdistrict: Warrenheip

TonyOz

TonyOz Report 21 Jun 2011 11:29

This appears to be his death in Cranbourne ( Outer Melbourne )
Cranbourne is approx 25 -30 kms from Melbourne City heading toward the Gippsland region of Victoria.

Seen as ENOCK

Surname: JONES
Given Names: Enock
Father: Jones Thos
Mother: Margt RAMSAY
Death Place: CRANBOURNE
Age: 78
Age Code:
Year: 1942
Reg Number: 24884
Event: D

Age at death ( if correct ) would give him a birth c. 1864


Tony

Rhonda

Rhonda Report 21 Jun 2011 11:32

Thanks Jonesey, wow all this info who would ever guess, its so nice of you to look it up :-D Rhonda

Rhonda

Rhonda Report 21 Jun 2011 11:39

Tony I totally agree it looks right and they didnt always get the spelling correct in those days. thanks so much for your help it so good of you to help Rhonda :-)

TonyOz

TonyOz Report 21 Jun 2011 11:42

Cant see a birth in S.A. for Enoch/Enock JONES?

Perhaps an error on the A.V.R.I...unless the birth was meant for his spouse Mary Ann JONES ( which there are many )


This appears to be Enoch's birth but seen as Enock JONES ( Melbourne Vic.)
which ties in with his death.

JONES, Enock CB 1052461 Birth
Father: William
Mother: Ramsay Margaret
Event Place: Carn ( could be Carlton or Carnegie - Melbourne )
Reg Year: 1864
Reg State: Victoria
Ref Number:1169

Although his death records his father as "Thomas JONES "....i would be rather inclined to think this is an error given by the imformant on his death cert.....and William JONES being correct. Unless his father was William Thomas JONES?


Tony :-)

TonyOz

TonyOz Report 21 Jun 2011 11:57

Regarding Charles Ernest JONES b. 1897

There are two possibles for a marriage in Victoria....given that he married around the early 20 years of age.

Surname: JONES
Given Names: Charles
Event: M
Sex:
Spouse Surname/Father: BEET
Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Gladys
Age:
Age Code:
Birth Place:
Death Place:
Year: 1917
Reg. Number: 3048


Surname: JONES
Given Names: Chas
Event: M
Sex:
Spouse Surname/Father: HURLEY
Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Margt Ethel
Age:
Age Code:
Birth Place:
Death Place:
Year: 1919
Reg. Number: 7650



Tony

TonyOz

TonyOz Report 21 Jun 2011 12:02

Death registered in Melbourne ( Dandenong )

Surname: JONES
Given Names: Charles
Father: Jones Enoch
Mother: Mary Ann UNKNOWN
Death Place: DAND
Age: 71
Age Code:
Year: 1968
Reg Number: 25551
Event: D


Tony

TonyOz

TonyOz Report 21 Jun 2011 12:10

This is possibly his WW1 Service record.

He mentions a sister miss"Winnie"JONES as next of Kin.This is most likely his older sibling sister Winifred JONES



Charles JONES

Regimental number 1862
Religion Methodist
Occupation Engineer
Address 24 Woseley Street, Coburg, Victoria
Marital status Single
Age at embarkation 18
Next of kin Sister, Miss Winnie Jones, 24 Woseley Street, Coburg, Victoria
Enlistment date 11 October 1915
Rank on enlistment Private
Unit name 31st Battalion, 2nd Reinforcement
AWM Embarkation Roll number 23/48/3
Embarkation details Unit embarked from Brisbane, Queensland, on board HMAT A55 Kyarra on 3 January 1916
Rank from Nominal Roll Gunner
Unit from Nominal Roll 14th Field Artillery Brigade
Fate Returned to Australia 2 September 1919
Other details War service: Western Front


Medals: British War Medal, Victory Medal


Tony

TonyOz

TonyOz Report 21 Jun 2011 12:11

Bingo Helen... :-)

TonyOz

TonyOz Report 21 Jun 2011 12:28

Hi Rhonda.

Obtaining Charles JONES death cert, should provide you with any marriages ( if he did in fact Marry ) and also any children ( living and deceased ) at the time of his death.



Tony... :-)

Rhonda

Rhonda Report 21 Jun 2011 12:44

Thanks guys youve been a great help :-)

TonyOz

TonyOz Report 21 Jun 2011 13:00

Hi Rhonda.

Happy that we could help :-)

Just to add:

Enoch/Enock JONES parents married in Victoria 1863

JONES, William CM 501033 Marriage
Spouse: RAMSAY, Margaret
Reg Year: 1863
Reg State: Victoria
Ref Number: 366

Must go feed the cat....he is clawing at my leg...:-D
Good luck.

Tony :-)

Rhonda

Rhonda Report 27 Jun 2011 11:51

How wonderful, I didnt know their was so many nice people still in Australia, thanks so much for all your help. :-)